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Registered Member #164
Joined: Tue Mar 07 2006, 12:07PMPosts: 3146 |
wrote ... yeah i know jesus. i saw the huge thread. ctrfl+f, typed canoe. and boom. nothing. thnx... ='[ HAHA poor canoe wow jesus i am amazed to see you come down like this, although i agree with you on alot of the things you said. You truly will be missed, yet i hope to play with you on cs many more times. you know where to reach me 
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| Wildcard23 |
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Registered Member #514
Joined: Wed Dec 20 2006, 06:33AMPosts: 1067 |
Jesus wrote ...
You claim to everyone to be mature but prove nothing other than how petty and self-centered you really are. "Hey guys, I have a problem with someone so I want to tell all of you guys about it and try to make you all look at him differently. Then give me attention and tell me you all want me to be around because that would make me feel better."
Wow. Just freaking wow. You're going to be in for a rude awakening if you keep looking for pity along the road of life and I'll be damned if you get any from me. Here, let me get you a towel so you can wipe the sand out of your vag.
Since you claim to want to make this private but want to voice it in public, let's voice it in public. You have successfully forced me to enter into a discussion that I don't give two shits about. I have far better and bigger things to worry about but way to drag me into this one el immaturo.
I noticed your immaturity quite a while ago but I kept quiet about it and chose not to address it as I just come into the game to PLAY THE GAME!! Not deal with another freaking girlfriend which you have successfully just made yourself.
Joe and I hesitated to give you admin on dust2 because you consistently kept making comments about it to us and your conduct in game was sub par of our expectations for an admin. You acted like a child and we didn't want you slaying/slapping the crap out of everyone for your own pleasure. Or doing your normal talk crap about someone then get pissed when they talk crap back to you so you punish them since you are an admin. That's how all your crap with Matador started. I saw this behavior countless times on office and still am seeing it today.
Joe and I decided to give you admin on zombie because Bob fought hard for you to get on the list and we figured there wasn't much you could do to people on a zombie map. However, I received countless complaints of your improper conduct, not being able to take a joke, and ruining the overall experience for players. And don't think it was just from people not in the clan complaining about your conduct. The server died out so there was no need for us to take action concerning the complaints.
Then to the Office. With zombie being shut down, Joe and I returned to Office more. For some reason, a lot of the regulars on the server were complaining about your conduct. In particular, the fact that you were ruining the experience for them. Hence, why a shitload of people were switching to the opposite team that you were on. I trust what they were telling me because I had been hearing complaints for a while now.
Then I got to experience it myself when you and Goose were on one night. Goose was drunk and being a douche which was funny as hell for the most part but you have a big mouth over the mic and were instigating Goose the entire time to talk shit about me cause you thought it was funny. You continued to prod him to try to get into an argument with me which is your own problem. But as soon as I gave you that shit back you threw your all to well-known temper tantrum and tried to get into an argument with me. Resulting in multiple members complaining to shut the hell up with the mic spamming as they were just trying to play.
WHAT YOU FAIL TO REALIZE IS THAT I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR ISSUES!! I can not stress that I am there just to have fun. You continued your pissyness and got Goose on your side to the point that I warned Goose I was going to ban him multiple times and he responded to do it since it would be funny as hell. So he got banned for 5 minutes, came back into the game, laughed hysterically, and then you started right where you left off talking shit. I had enough and finally moved someone off CT and went to that team. Did you not find it weird that a ton of T's came over to the CT side because they were sick of your shit? The ENTIRE CT team started voicing how much they hate you and your conduct in game. At that point, I can't blame them. I was sick of you as well.
Now let's be clear about your attempts to contact me. You sent me an x-fire message while I was in game saying wtf is wrong with you acting like a little bitch. Let's see. Did you really expect me to respond or leave the game to put up with your immaturity? I neither have the patience or tolerance to deal with you. So I ignored the message and stayed in game playing a GAME with everyone having FUN. Then you decide to talk more shit calling me a bitch over xfire before you sign off. Gee, that makes me really want to talk to you.
Your next attempt to contact me was a private message to me saying why don't I have forum access to the 9 to 5 clan as if I removed your access or were responsible for the access. Either way, I investigated it and found a # of members didn't have correct access so I corrected it before posting a bulletin about it.
Your final attempt was another private message with at least a normal tone it. I'll post it for everyone to read...
"ok so i really gotta know because you never responded to my xfire the other day wtf happened last week between you and me like really all I remember is you coming in and after a couple round flipping on me...alex says that among other things you have had a problem with my conduct the past couple weeks care to elaborate please?
So yea plz reply because it would be really helpful to know because we used to be cool now its just like wtf
peace"
When you try to discuss something with someone, don't send them a message claiming they are the problem. If you wanted to know what happened then ask. Don't try to say that I flipped out on you. Take responsibility for your own actions and don't pretend that you don't have any portion of responsibility in what happens to you.
I haven't replied to your message that I received on Thu May 24 2007, 08:47PM because I haven't had freaking time. The normal work force works during the week Monday through Friday. Being on call for work related emergencies takes time away from your life. Going to baseball games, playing baseball, going paintballing, or going to the bar just to relax takes time away. I don't have an hour to sit down and dedicate to addressing issues with you. I wish you weren't so self-centered and been taught patience instead of trying to seek sympathy from others and force me to drop all the work that I have to do at work over the last hour to come on and deal with you. Way to go sport.
Those of us that work full time will tell you that we don't want to deal with petty bullshit and especially don't want to come home at night after a long day at work to get into arguments with 10-year olds (age or maturity wise). I have far better things to do with my time and if I do get in game at night it's to have fun.
You were responsible for acting like a dick towards God last night which resulted in the start of argument with him. That's why I private messaged him to tell him to leave it alone and ignore you instead of letting you bait him into an argument. Learning point for you is that you don't just say wtf you want to other people because most people don't like that. He didn't appreciate your comments and that's why he sent a message to admin after he got my message saying "I'll just ignore him you're right wild" without realizing you were an admin. I'm tired of you ruining the game for everyone else who is just trying to have fun.
Take a long look in the mirror and check your conduct and the way you treat other people. Right now there are a lot of people sick of you ruining the experience in a GAME and trying to act like a GIRLFRIEND. A lot of us have one woman's shit to deal with and we don't want another from some kid in a video game.
You want to remove your admin then do it. You want to leave the clan then do it. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out and I'll be the one at the door to give you a box of tissues for your issues.
But what you will not do is come onto the forums to act like a child and blame your leaving on someone else. Stop being a child and man up. NO one is forcing you to do shit. And I'll be damned if you look for pity at my expense. But congratulations on forcing me to have to stay an hour later tonight at work to finish my work up so that I could address your child issues.
EDIT - Thanks for proving Mayer right that Fish Tank knows drama. And thanks for dragging me into your drama fest you little immature prick. You should have taken Jigg's advice to you last night and not made this post as this was not the proper way to handle things. Score another one for you again sport.
Edited Thu May 31 2007, 08:07PM
I would like to say that unless people are able to persuade me to do differently and unless one person in particular decides to man up so maybe we can solve this problem he seems to have with me(and that means in private if you decide to do so) then it looks like unfortunately this is my farewell from the [FT] clan. |
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| Pockyninja |
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Ruler of all that is pocky
Registered Member #28
Joined: Mon Nov 28 2005, 11:17PMPosts: 704 |
Sorry to see you leave Jesus. I really think you should think things over before making rash decisions based on the actions of a few. Never the the less if this is goodbye then good luck in your future endevers it's your life to live as you see fit. Also your first post could really use some line breaks man. It is way to blocky. If wild is right (and he has yet to give me reason to believe he isn't) then it really seems to be your own problem jesus. also he is right this is not the way to solve a problem correctly. Sometimes you must look within yourself for the problem and the solution. Edited Thu May 31 2007, 09:45PM |
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That one guy...
Registered Member #250
Joined: Tue May 09 2006, 11:59PMPosts: 2603 |
Jesus wrote ... *tear* You too.Noname I have just really started playing more with you and you are always a cool guy to play with I LOVE YOU JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Cya man. I hope we can play sometime later maybe (you can always hit me up on steam friends or xfire). I'll miss you. Edited Thu May 31 2007, 09:03PM |
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| Jesus[tzahal] |
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![Jesus[tzahal]](/media/avatar/100x0/upload/mango_kiwi.1172003384.jpg)
Registered Member #530
Joined: Wed Jan 03 2007, 10:56PMPosts: 807 |
Wild and Jesus, I don't know what the fuck happened between you two, but it's gotta stop. Jesus, there can't be only one of us here, so what you need to do is take a break for a week, come back all relaxed and shit and leave all this drama in the past. I can't take sides in this case because I haven't seen Jesus abuse admin, nor have I seen Wildcard do anything rude. They are both really nice guys and I don't see how either of them can't get along, so all I can suggest is take a break, come back cooled off, and frag some people in FTC. | ||
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Jesus not HeyZeus
Registered Member #370
Joined: Mon Jul 31 2006, 03:49AMPosts: 332 |
Ok first thing first...your first little thing about how basically this is just for me to get attention and for me to point out that I have a problem with somebody to everybody is completely wrong. You are also wrong about my attempt on xfire to talk to you because the following is exactly what I said. Conversation started between [FT] Jesus <DAWG>[9²5] and wildcard23: Mon, May 21 22:36:24 2007 [22:36] [FT] Jesus <DAWG>[9²5]: ok idk if ur gonna answer or w/e but wtf happened the other day [22:38] [FT] Jesus <DAWG>[9²5]: yea guess not w/e Conversation ended: Mon, May 21 22:38:40 2007 I did not say you were acting like a little bitch or anything so how about not making stuff up there. Now onto me and my admining I don't slap/slay people at random and never did on dust2. And me talking crap to people lets see whenever I say stuff it's jokingly and I am not talking crap about people but then when people respond back all seriously and continue acting like dicks when I was like it's just a joke then yea its ridiculous. That is how my crap with matador started and now every time I am on a server and something happens say I get killed as soon as he comes in he goes on like oh you suck and all this crap, I am not going to sit back and take crap from somebody like him. I am going to leave these complaints alone I have not had anybody voice any complaint about my admining on zombie or any server for that matter and I got to say that if somebody has a problem with me and how I am acting how about you come out and say something to me about it and see what we can do about it. Then on to me "instigating goose to talk crap"...I honestly have no idea what you are talking about, yes I admit that a couple of us were trying to get goose to freestyle because he said something about doing so before you came in and I really wanted to hear him do it but I NEVER said oh hey goose talk shit about so and so. And as for the multiple people being like shut the hell up that was not all me, I was talking quite a bit because me and goose and a couple others were having fun, something you obviously didn't see, so how about not putting all the blame on me for something that wasn't all me. And when goose came back all I said was something along the lines of what's wild's problem because during the time you banned goose my game accidentally minimized so all I saw in console was you banning goose. And in my final pm to you I didn't say it was all your fault what I said was was that you flipped out on me which was completely true and I wanted to know what I had done, therefore I wasn't saying it's all your fault, instead I was trying to figure out what was wrong but I guess you couldn't seem to catch that either. Ok so here is the scenario please tell me how this is me starting the argument between me and god, instead of him just being a dick to me. So I am CT and I come to backwindow and I see GAWD running out from T spawn and he had his knife and I shot him in the face and he died. Next thing I know I see him saying something along the lines of wtf you asshole I was knifing blah blah blah...obese bunnies (my name at the time was obese bunny) should die. I responded to him chill out dude its me jesus and he said I don't care and proceeded to be a dick and then after a minute or two I see him say to you something in admin chat. I honestly fail to see how I was a dick and started this I mean really please tell me because I must say that even Ray Charles and Helen Keller can see that GAWD started that crap. And oh yea really mature calling me all those names it just really shows how big of a man you really are have fun with your pitiful ass life, I tried not making this into a flame fest because everybody hates those but you obviously succeeded. One last thing you say all these people hate me and say that I am ruining the game for them and that people are constantly trying to switch to the other team when I am on well its obviously just you and a few others because I have not noticed this. And oh yea you have gotten complaints about me, people have been complaining about you lately too, you being a dick whereas you used to be nice. Keep your problems in the real world out of the game and don't take out your anger and frustration on us. And oh yea I hope you had fun staying late at work because that is just another thing you could complain about to us. |
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| alcosatz |
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FT Classic Op
Registered Member #39
Joined: Fri Dec 02 2005, 10:30PMPosts: 1545 |
Jesus, I think all of this revolves around your spat with Wildcard on May 17 (or maybe May 18, I can't quite recall). This was an incident where you and Wildcard were yelling at each other and I believe Wild and Goose had a bit of an issue as well. I asked all three of you (Goose, Jesus, and Wild), privately, what your individual take on the incident was the day after it happened and I got back many details of who did what wrong. Unfortunately the common theme among all accounts was that each individual describing the problem took little personal responsibility for what happened. These things happen, I suppose, yet it is still disappointing to see how this tension is unfolding. It's ironic that you, Wild, go to such great lengths to describe how immature Jesus' behavior is and yet you resorted to not only muting an FTC Operator but also banned him (Goose) on the same night most of this shit went down. Since you're in the habit of dropping details from PM's I only have mild regret about quoting what you privately said to me:
I'm suprised you have the audacity to lecture a junior admin (Jesus) about how to behave and then in the same night you manage to mute and temp ban an Op. FT Classic's admin rules clearly state:
Obviously admins have in-game arguments from time to time, and I've certainly had my share (Omega is chuckling somewhere right now  ), but I can't understand how you make such a damning critique of Jesus' conduct without drawing attention to your own. I don't enjoy calling you out in this manner; however, your admin punishments on Goose bothered me... a lot. How would you have reacted if Jesus had banned you for five minutes? I'm sure you would have been indignant, and why not -- how dare a lower lever admin ban you? Sounds ironic, doesn't it, seeing as how you, an L2 admin, decided a five minute ban was something you should deliver to an Op.Goose had the tact to address this subject (you muting/banning him) with me in a casual manner, and not lose perspective concerning the overall effectiveness of our admin team. I may not be privy to all the communications you and Goose have had but I'll assume he has not lambasted you for banning him. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Wild, I understand you've been aloof towards Jesus in resolving this conflict, and you've kept your cool until now, but I suggest you reflect some of your "maturity" criticisms back on yourself. I understand (probably more than most people here) the burdens of working weird hours (especially the on-call bit -- I've been 24/7 sysadmin on-call for one week out of four for the past three years), but you gotta admit that while your judgement of Jesus' actions has merit you managed to make a few mistakes in the same conflict. Please don't think this as me "writing you off" and having an ultimately negative opinion of you. I still admire you and appreciate your assistance with FTC, as well as your candor and friendship over the past several months! It's only fair that I call Jesus out on his behavior during the incident of May 17/18. Jesus, I must say that it was your admin actions that drew my attention to this issue in the first place. The first thing I notice WAS SOMEONE YELLING IN ADMIN ALLSAY IN ALL CAPS! You had the temerity to avoid the quoted FTC admin rule above of handling admin beef out-of-game, and you made your problem everyone else's problem for that time. I can somewhat understand your feeling of being caught off guard with Wild's animosity towards you but you should have initially tried to sort this out with him. Generally speaking, I don't mind mediating these issues (and I'm aware that I contacted you, Wild and Goose first) but this type of tension among admins should not have occurred in the first place, but since it did, it also should have been handled privately between you and Wild. I know you, Jesus, tried to privately contact Wild and handle this but there is some wisdom behind his words -- you don't have to necessarily admit fault but you also don't have to assign blame either. If you genuinely want to resolve a problem like this then a little humility on your part will certainly help. Whether you believe you've done anything wrong or not isn't the issue... clearly Wild has some reservations about your conduct, and letting him know you're interested in resolving the issue is key. I don't think you made that clear. Of course, that bit of "conflict resolution" wisdom can be applied to Wildcard as well. Wild, you clearly had problems with Jesus but decided to let the issues fester instead of cleaning them up.Anyways... this post is getting too long and I'm sure many of you have stopped reading at this point! For those still here I would like to stress the notion that personal accountability for a conflict is key. It's not easy to admit but a situation like this can easily turn into high fives and a six pack if you explore the possibility that you, as well the person with whom you have beef, have both fucked up! Would you two please try to work out your issues? I've enjoyed spending time playing and talking to both of you and, at the very least, make an attempt for me. Thanks! Edited Fri Jun 01 2007, 01:14AM |
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Jesus not HeyZeus
Registered Member #370
Joined: Mon Jul 31 2006, 03:49AM Posts: 332 |
Ok just so you guys know I am interested in trying to work this out, for my own sake as well as the sake of all those great friends I have...I have exams right now that I need to get done but they should be done Tuesday and then I graduated on Thursday so hopefully we can get something set up after all that. | ||
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Registered Member #555
Joined: Wed Jan 31 2007, 12:55AMPosts: 64 |
okay jesus, the crap between us 2 is small potatoes I think in comparison to anything else, yesterday your name was obese bunny, Ididnt even know that was you till after..and you said you say things jokingly to me and I get all serious, its ALWAYS been the other way around...you cant take a joke from me but you do from anyone else, so since I seen how irritaded you get I cant help being encouraged to call you a noob or say you suck or say your the slilless jesus because you get all worked up, and I can take it back to the begining when I started playing...I didnt like you or drunk right away because for soome reason you were always rude to me....but whatever, I dont think theres anyone else that has had more enemies in FT than I have, and not that its anyones fault but mine because everyone is where they are at because their actions and decisions in life....so I dont care I dont let it bother me, so if you choose to continue this ..garbage with me thats fine I wont say nothing to you I dont care..but..at least Im glad that a little fuss over 3 ppl isnt gonan make you quit FT cause that would be weak. | ||
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Meteor 2016
Registered Member #316
Joined: Mon Jun 26 2006, 09:14PMPosts: 3503 |
Even if you have no idea of another person's identity, you should still treat them the same as if they were an FT member. We aren't on pedastools, and the whole logic of getting new people into FT is treating them as well as you treat the other members. I make the same mistakes when I'm in game and getting pissed off at my team because I have a few flashbangs thrown at my face, or I'm frustrated because the CTs haven't won a round in 13 rounds. I tend to release my frustration on others and yell uncontrollably. It's pretty hilarious (I actually go back into HLstatsX just to see what I said when I was pissed off) when I get pissed off but that's not what we are trying to do here. The whole idea that I'm trying to implement out is that admins cannot have tensions in-game which is part of the reason why that rule is stated. People aren't going to want to join a clan where the members hate each other. And if they see the people arguing in game, that's just going to sway them away. Anyways, if an argument stirs up, then it's up to you to be the mature one and say "Can we solve this outside of the server" so that everyone doesn't have to put up with the drama inside of the server. Man up, give each other a little hand-job or something and make each other's days. No need to get into a little quarrel over nothing. Just remember what our server is all about and then life will be great. Whole purpose of me joining FT was because I thought that the atmosphere was pretty friendly, admins controlled the server well, and I found myself an Office server, and I go nowhere else (Other then Dust2). Anyways, I hope you guys resolve your problem and we can get back to life here and have some fun! |
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