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| Black Eagle |
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Registered Member #838
Joined: Thu Aug 16 2007, 07:24PMPosts: 4 |
Whats up fellas? Illegal Immigration comes to mind a lot these days. I am wondering on what you fellow people think about it. As u may or may not know i am mexican/american born in NC. But my parents are mexicans who immigrated illegally in like 1970's and just recently became citezens about a year or two ago. I've heard many people say many negative things about immigrants. Although i do agree with some things many i do not. Immigrants are human beings. not animals. sure there are several immigrants that all they do is drink and commit crimes. but there are also the immigrants that all they want is to make their future generation happy and self sufficieint. SOme say "they dont belong here kick them all out" i firmly believe that if u kicked out every illegal immigrant this country would be in a such calamity. Think about it. All the jobs immigrants happily do,they will do just about anything. I hardly believe any american will work to clean bathrooms for minimum wage. Economically, immigrants uplift the economy. when u go to walmart what do u see? circuit city as well. the malls, the grocery stores? Im not saying immigrants deserve everything. i am against receiving government support if you are an illegal immigrant such as welfare and medicare. But i do believe in basic rights and the right to seek the american dream. After all weren't our forefathers pilgrims? Again, im not saying all immigrants should stay. but the ones who just work and try to live a happy life, whats wrong witht that? Cheers! |
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| jigg4joe |
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Registered Member #326
Joined: Wed Jul 05 2006, 04:15AMPosts: 635 |
i say let everyone in, but if they fuck up they get teh boot. | ||
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| Jesus[tzahal] |
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Registered Member #530
Joined: Wed Jan 03 2007, 10:56PMPosts: 807 |
We could use some more cleaning ladies...  Just kidding!!If the country reaches the migration cap for people entering the country, it should still allow those with good business plans in |
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Anal Assassin
Registered Member #455
Joined: Mon Oct 09 2006, 04:58AMPosts: 3848 |
i say lets not let everyone in. But the thing is, we cannot keep track of everyone comming in (illegally), so therefore we cannot determine who are the good ones or bad ones. So ima have to say fuck it. As with every culture, race, ethnic background, there are the good ones and bad ones. Immigrants (prolly illegal ones) save me a bunch of money on the extension to my house. We payed them well, made them lunch, gave them breaks, lemonade, and they did a great job. And it was still cheaper then highering anyone else. Im all for it since they DO do a lot of jobs other dont want. So since we cant keep track of the bad ones, and the good ones do great things, i dont give a fuck who comes in and who doesnt. |
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| emerican |
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Registered Member #164
Joined: Tue Mar 07 2006, 12:07PMPosts: 3146 |
i say whoever is here now should stay, and focus efforts on blocking everyone else out. | ||
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| nostie |
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Registered Member #185
Joined: Thu Mar 30 2006, 10:42PMPosts: 3167 |
if we got rid of the immigrants who did all of the shitty jobs, and the government helped those who would have to start paying more to their workers, then we could stable the economy enough to ACTUALLY pay people minimum wage for their efforts... I hear too many people say "they do the jobs that americans wouldn't do anyway". this is a lie... americans DID do these jobs, but they wanted to get paid for being in a shithole, as anyone would. The main reason I say don't let these immigrants in, and send the ones who are here away is because they're sending the money that they earn BACK to mexico. This is helping mexico's economy and screwing ours. |
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| Pockyninja |
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Ruler of all that is pocky
Registered Member #28
Joined: Mon Nov 28 2005, 11:17PMPosts: 704 |
Black Eagle wrote ... Whats up fellas? Illegal Immigration comes to mind a lot these days. I am wondering on what you fellow people think about it. As u may or may not know i am mexican/american born in NC. But my parents are mexicans who immigrated illegally in like 1970's and just recently became citezens about a year or two ago. I've heard many people say many negative things about immigrants. Although i do agree with some things many i do not. Immigrants are human beings. not animals. sure there are several immigrants that all they do is drink and commit crimes. but there are also the immigrants that all they want is to make their future generation happy and self sufficieint. SOme say "they dont belong here kick them all out" i firmly believe that if u kicked out every illegal immigrant this country would be in a such calamity. Think about it. All the jobs immigrants happily do,they will do just about anything. I hardly believe any american will work to clean bathrooms for minimum wage. Economically, immigrants uplift the economy. when u go to walmart what do u see? circuit city as well. the malls, the grocery stores? Im not saying immigrants deserve everything. i am against receiving government support if you are an illegal immigrant such as welfare and medicare. But i do believe in basic rights and the right to seek the american dream. After all weren't our forefathers pilgrims? Again, im not saying all immigrants should stay. but the ones who just work and try to live a happy life, whats wrong witht that? Cheers! Well this is a touchy issue. See you say they boost the economy but that isn't necessarily true. They mostly help the rich get richer with no feed back to the less fortunate. They take jobs all over as you said because they are willing to do it for next to nothing while the youth of America who end up doing all those jobs you listed don't get the jobs because they want a bit more. Personally I think it's wrong that they take a job from someone who is legally here when they had to break the law to be here. That and they do present a hazard with crimes. Now I know not all illegals are just going out and committing crimes but there is a good portion that do and I am sure they got their reasons. I mean illegals have to work for minimal wage and bellow so crime is much more profitable. We got people that the government don't know exist which makes it a lot easier to commit crimes and I am sure they are a lot more careful because the penalty for being caught is higher. You know what would solve this problem taking over Mexico and fixing it. I mean you don't see Canadians illegally entering the country. Lets face it Mexico is messed up they got undrinkable watter, There is a huge difference in their people from the super rich to the desperately poor. Their opportunity is limited which is why they come to America to make a better life. If Mexico was a better place they would have no need to sneak into countries and take jobs doing crap for less then minimal wage. Since that isn't a realistic option I say we just let them all in but they have to have a tracker in them to prevent crime. Just make it so anyone can become able to live in the us for a period but have a tracker on them and after about a year see if they are establishing a good life. Then let them take a test to become a legal. It would cut down on worries about crime, there would be no need for them to wreck the economy with less then minimal wage jobs, and they all get out of Mexico. Most people will probably go through with this since it provides for a better life at a bit less privacy and it is a hell of a lot easier then getting though that gate lol. |
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| L3muR |
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Registered Member #378
Joined: Tue Aug 08 2006, 09:28PMPosts: 239 |
When it comes to illegal immigration, I think that it doesn't matter at this point. It is so amazingly hypocritical for us to say "they're taking our land", after what our ancestors, then immigrant, did to the actual natives of this land. If we plan to enforce it now, after killing off the actual natives, I think that's kinda wrong. Additionally, at least the modern immigrants aren't killing us, like the founding families of America did. | ||
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| Black Eagle |
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Registered Member #838
Joined: Thu Aug 16 2007, 07:24PM Posts: 4 |
well said gentalmen! i agree that the ones who r in should stay, and if any commit a serious offense ( DUI, Assault, etc they should get kicked out immediatly! | ||
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Meteor 2016
Registered Member #316
Joined: Mon Jun 26 2006, 09:14PMPosts: 3503 |
And getting jailed in Mexico is no joke. You can be in there for a long time if you commit even the most minor offenses. I can see why some people illegally immigrate, because of the 'Golden glory' stories they hear in America for job opportunities. Truth is, the Mexicans do do our dirty jobs, as well as most construction jobs. It's not the Mexicans that steal the jobs that they shouldn't steal. Those squandering people you can't understand in your tech support are either indians or Pakistanis. Those are jobs that Americans should have. We're tech nerds. We know more shit than they do about this. I do not mind the illegal immigration from Mexicans as much because many of them are sick and tired of the government in Mexico. I'm pretty sure much of us would do the same if we were in their shoes. America still has plenty of room for more people, it's not like we're China or Japan over here, so I don't see why people would complain about that. |
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