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Registered Member #185
Joined: Thu Mar 30 2006, 10:42PMPosts: 3167 |
Was there an earlier post on this (even from way back)? Please link to it if there was. It will be easiest if you simply list 1 through 5 and your thoughts on them 1. Time at which you must be moving towards the objective (CTs) 2. Legality of hopping in cabinets 3. Re-purchasing/spamming nades (this could be solved with an addon of some sort?) 4. Ghosting? (at what point is it okay?) 5. Hostage Killing (should rescuing two and killing two be discouraged by more than just losing points?) Some of these are more subjective based, but could still be considered good rules (1, 4, 5?) (and the admin at the time would have to make his judgement) My thoughts: 1. 1:00 at the latest, unless you are immediately next to the hostages already, 2. This is fairly clearly a map exploit and should not be allowed. I don't think this was ever banned before, so I doubt anything will be changed. I probably just have to get used to it, but I'm interested in seeing other opinions. 3. I think it'd be easiest to deal with this using a mod of some sort. 4. I think it's fairly accepted right now that ghosting is allowed when there is someone AFK or a CT is not completing the objective. I'm not sure that there needs to be a rule on paper regarding this. 5. As with cabinet hopping, I don't know that there's a good way to deal with this. Acceptable, but frowned upon is what I remember someone saying while in server. Edited Thu Aug 02 2012, 07:47AM |
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doctorphate
Registered Member #724
Joined: Wed May 30 2007, 03:50AMPosts: 699 |
1. Our Time limit is already very low, I dont want to harass people to be in T-spawn by 1:00. If you want it 1 minute shorter, make the round a minute shorter. 2. I see no issue with it, it shows up on radar that you're in there and in 6 years of playing its a habit to check them anyone. 3. Mod would work. 4. Ghosting if someone is AFK or the CT is camping snowman or some shit with clearly no motive to move. 5. Personally I think its a cheap tactic and shouldn't be allowed. I believe the server kicks after 6 hostages down anyway. I killed 4 with a nade by accident the other day so.. |
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| Cha Siew Bao |
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Registered Member #133
Joined: Sat Jan 21 2006, 09:03PMPosts: 198 |
1. I don't think we should bring back the time limit, for now anyways. People are already getting inside or being yelled at over all-chat to get their asses inside. 2. Keep it legal, its not a habitual thing we're seeing. Mostly old timers just having fun (myself included  )3. Mod works, or just cut down the buy time. It seems awfully long? 4. AFK or ct camping outside office (yard, short/long snipe) 5. Sucks for T, but its still a tactic. IMO the less admin interjection we have the easier it is to bring back and keep people in the server. I don't want it to seem like we're power hungry admins slapping/slaying for time limits, cabi hopping, making them rescue all or none, etc. |
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Meteor 2016
Registered Member #316
Joined: Mon Jun 26 2006, 09:14PMPosts: 3503 |
1. Time at which you must be moving towards the objective (CTs): 1:30 is a good time, but this can be in question if it's 1 CT vs. 5-6 T's who is mowing them down slowly. I don't think they should camp, granted, but there should be some exception. 2. Legality of hopping in cabinets: Why would we have a rule against this? 3. Re-purchasing/spamming nades (this could be solved with an addon of some sort?) - Yes, we can add a plugin that will disable rebuying nades. 4. Ghosting? (at what point is it okay?) -With the exception of AFK, it's never okay. Ever. An admin will take care of it if they're camping, we don't need someone else to tell us. 5. Hostage Killing (should rescuing two and killing two be discouraged by more than just losing points?) - When you wanna win, you wanna win. I have already seen people do that and be like, "Aww man I wouldn't have done that if I'd have known I'd lose so many points." Fact of the matter is, people are more of point whores than win whores. Edited Thu Aug 02 2012, 01:11PM |
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scope_uk
Registered Member #389
Joined: Thu Aug 17 2006, 10:20PMPosts: 598 |
Cha Siew Bao wrote ... 1. I don't think we should bring back the time limit, for now anyways. People are already getting inside or being yelled at over all-chat to get their asses inside. 2. Keep it legal, its not a habitual thing we're seeing. Mostly old timers just having fun (myself included )3. Mod works, or just cut down the buy time. It seems awfully long? 4. AFK or ct camping outside office (yard, short/long snipe) 5. Sucks for T, but its still a tactic. IMO the less admin interjection we have the easier it is to bring back and keep people in the server. I don't want it to seem like we're power hungry admins slapping/slaying for time limits, cabi hopping, making them rescue all or none, etc. I agree with all these bar 3. A Mod would work restricting grenades to just one, as I've seen it on other servers. I like the long buy limit though, that way you can buy one weapon such as a scout and then retreat back into spawn and buy an AK. Edited Thu Aug 02 2012, 01:17PM |
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peacebypeice
Registered Member #925
Joined: Mon Nov 26 2007, 05:23AMPosts: 1452 |
Cha Siew Bao wrote ... IMO the less admin interjection we have the easier it is to bring back and keep people in the server. I don't want it to seem like we're power hungry admins slapping/slaying for time limits, cabi hopping, making them rescue all or none, etc. I try to be relatively hands-off until necessary. 1. It's nice to have a time roughly set out, but there are many situations where I wouldn't think this would apply. 2. Leave my cabinets  . I rarely see anyone do it, and even more rarely do I see it done successfully. 3. I'm all for limiting/automating this. It's hard to admin someone you can't see in the 50 smokes in spawn. 4. Ghosting, in my opinion, hasn't been a problem yet. Circumstantial in my opinion but for general use, should be avoided. 5. You get dinged pretty hard for killing hosties as is, I think if you are willing to go for the win and sacrifice a few points you should be allowed to. |
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Space Monkey
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Joined: Sat Nov 12 2005, 03:26AMPosts: 378 |
1- 1:30 2- cabinets should be legal 3- nade spamming isnt much of a problem yet 4- ghosting... hard to stop, so idk how we deal with that 5- mp_hostagepenalty 4 i think changes to kick after 4 hossie kills. |
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Anal Assassin
Registered Member #455
Joined: Mon Oct 09 2006, 04:58AMPosts: 3848 |
Knightrider wrote ...
1. Time at which you must be moving towards the objective (CTs): 1:30 is a good time, but this can be in question if it's 1 CT vs. 5-6 T's who is mowing them down slowly. I don't think they should camp, granted, but there should be some exception. 2. Legality of hopping in cabinets: Why would we have a rule against this? 3. Re-purchasing/spamming nades (this could be solved with an addon of some sort?) - Yes, we can add a plugin that will disable rebuying nades. 4. Ghosting? (at what point is it okay?) -With the exception of AFK, it's never okay. Ever. An admin will take care of it if they're camping, we don't need someone else to tell us. 5. Hostage Killing (should rescuing two and killing two be discouraged by more than just losing points?) - When you wanna win, you wanna win. I have already seen people do that and be like, "Aww man I wouldn't have done that if I'd have known I'd lose so many points." Fact of the matter is, people are more of point whores than win whores. |
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you would
Registered Member #149
Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 01:08AMPosts: 2039 |
1. I like the time limit as it is. I think rule 4 will take care of this problem 2. Doesn't seem like something that can easily be enforced. I say leave it be 3. Shorten the buy time 4. Not acceptable unless there is an AFK or someone clearly avoiding the objective on purpose 5. 5 hostage kills, then kick seems appropriate. Sometimes you just can't help but throw a stray grenade if you're trying to stop a CT from rescuing the hosties. |
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Registered Member #185
Joined: Thu Mar 30 2006, 10:42PM Posts: 3167 |
In response to pretty much everyone: Scope: I think that buy time should be limited. I think it goes against the spirit of the game to allow buying and then switching what you bought. The idea is you're suiting up to go on a "mission". If you need to switch guns, you should have to pick up fallen people's guns. Knightrider: Rule 2: We could potentially want a rule against cabinet hopping simply because it's very clearly an exploit. I know the first time it happened to me (I don't regularly check the radar for ENEMIES) I was a little bit pissed off. I could see new people joining the server, seeing that, and leaving. @ rule 5: I think we should actually RAISE the amount of hostages that you're allowed to kill before you get kicked. (basically what Toast said) Of course, as everyone said, it's best for admins to stay out of sight until there absolutely needs to be something done (and even then, warn warn warn before doing something). But we already have those rules down. We need to make some that the admins should look for. So here's what I'm seeing: 1. Time at which you must be moving towards the objective (CTs) 1A. As long as you can successfully kill all terrorists or rescue all hostages, you're in the clear. 2. Legality of hopping in cabinets 2A. Keep it legal. 3. Re-purchasing/spamming nades (this could be solved with an addon of some sort?) 3A. Illegal. Remedied by either a reduction of buy time or a mod to limit grenade purchases (smoke, flash, and frag). I prefer both of these to solve multiple problems. 4. Ghosting? (at what point is it okay?) 4A. When the CT is clearly not moving towards the objective and will not have time to complete it if he does not start moving quickly. 5. Hostage Killing (should rescuing two and killing two be discouraged by more than just losing points?) 5A. This should be allowed. |
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