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| alcosatz |
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FT Classic Op
Registered Member #39
Joined: Fri Dec 02 2005, 10:30PMPosts: 1545 |
Players are permitted to stay at or near CT spawn for no longer than 20 seconds at the beginning of a round. This suggestion was made by Zad, Bubble Goose, Steel and a few others. I have updated the MOTD and adverts on FTC and FTC2. Edited Fri Jun 09 2006, 02:16PM |
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| Wulfram |
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Registered Member #18
Joined: Mon Nov 21 2005, 12:08AMPosts: 18 |
Wow thats fucked up beyond belief. You are expecting all ct's to be able to hold off a fucking rush and get out of spawn all in 20 seconds? Ok, say 5 T's rush back way, and over power some cts so they fall back towards there spawn, then you assholes slay them because its past 20 seconds. Is it just me of is that alittle fucked? I always permit one minute, before I slay. I feel this give Wow thats fucked up beyond belief. You are expecting all ct's to be able to hold off a fucking rush and get out of spawn all in 20 seconds? Ok, say 5 T's rush back way, and over power some cts so they fall back towards there spawn, then you assholes slay them because its past 20 seconds. Is it just me of is that alittle fucked? I always permit one minute, before I slay. I feel this gives ample time for the cts to fight off a rush and procede to complete there objectives. If you are only going to allow cts 20 secs to be away from spawn then the timelimit should be loawed from 2 mins 30 secs to around 1 min 40 secs. Now I agree if someone is camping behind a box up in one of the rooms off of ct spawn waiting for a t to make his way up, that they should be slayed with in 20 secs but not a group of players that are just trying to play smart. This is just my opinion, which always seems to be the opposite of everyone elses. Maybe things have gotten worse which has forced you guys to do this, I haven't been around and am therefore clueless. |
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| Kamikazi Watermelon |
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Bitch
Registered Member #20
Joined: Mon Nov 21 2005, 08:06PMPosts: 98 |
wow wulf u could of said that in one paragraph. you just repeated urself like 3 times. maybe not 20 secs but give a certain amount of time so admins dont get any contraversy over the slay. thats happened to me many a times. |
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| yourdroid |
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Registered Member #36
Joined: Thu Dec 01 2005, 06:12PM Posts: 214 |
i like the change. Wulf it's not set in stone that it's a must slay either, it's up to the admins to use common sense. If there is a rush then u can't expect them to be out of spawn immedietly, but this prevents idiots from camping inside the large door at the backside of garage waiting for anyone to come by without makeing an effort to proceed. Atleast that's how i view the new rule. [ Edited Thu Dec 29 2005, 04:07AM ] | ||
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| CaineDAWG |
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Registered Member #56
Joined: Fri Dec 09 2005, 03:07PMPosts: 37 |
I'm sure thats exactly what he means droid.I agree with the time limit .It makes the people that want to camp garage till a t finally comes down to look around an extra incentive to move thier asses. Plus wulf I don't consider getting rushed as camping so I'm sure that will be overlooked. [ Edited Thu Dec 29 2005, 04:24AM ] | ||
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| alcosatz |
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FT Classic Op
Registered Member #39
Joined: Fri Dec 02 2005, 10:30PM Posts: 1545 |
I put this more in the context of CT's needlessly playing defensively. It is fairly common for T's to rush garage or front office and this should be taken into account by admins before they decide if someone is CT spawn camping past 20 seconds and deserves a slay. When I'm on CT's I will frequently check out garage to size up how many T's may be rushing and haul ass back around to front office to join back up with my team. I may get killed at spawn if I turn around to lob a grenade or take a few shots at advancing enemies, and I don't consider this camping. I'm not stopping and I'm not hiding, thus, I don't consider this camping and slay-worthy. Having to turn around after an advance failed for me and getting shot running away or returning fire isn't camping. Let me build on your example, wulf, and throw in more detail. Let's say five T's do rush, and I fall back to CT spawn to try to hold off their rush.... and time goes by. I can't see them, but they may be right on the other side of the dumpster... what do I do? If I stay there and don't have any intention of going the other way (front office / middle) or try my advance again through garage, and it is after 20 seconds, then I'm CT spawn camping. This is my whole point -- as a CT either you're advancing to get hostages, retreating / regrouping / planning another advance, or you're camping. The rule is for CT's that won't budge, and more importantly, waste everyone's time. There are always going to be reasonable exceptions and admin's are expected to warn players at least once before they slay them -- that is common sense to me. Does this clear it up? [ Edited Thu Dec 29 2005, 04:59AM ] | ||
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| Kalibur |
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Registered Member #101
Joined: Thu Dec 29 2005, 01:04AMPosts: 578 |
It's clear, I understand but hey it really is no concern to me on FTC because I'm a balancer and that means I CAN'T slay, so I have no worries; but I do know that I won?t CT spawn camp. I will do what Alex said and hold off the T's or something like that. NOW on FTC2 you better believe that I will slay your ass if your CT spawn camping it may be 20 sec or 40 sec but you will be splayed. Thanks -Kalibur |
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| Wulfram |
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Registered Member #18
Joined: Mon Nov 21 2005, 12:08AM Posts: 18 |
Bah I know, I have been drinking and I am pretty pissed casue I can't get the passanger side rear upper control arm off my jeep. God damn thing has wasted two 2 days of work already... Also I like to camp at ct spawn and scout the little fucks as the come from garage thats why I didn't like 20 seconds.. Scouting takes time, I have to reload after each headshot yeah know? PS there are to many damn rules, just get admins with commen since so there don't have to be some many rules. [ Edited Thu Dec 29 2005, 05:17AM ] | ||
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| Kalibur |
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Registered Member #101
Joined: Thu Dec 29 2005, 01:04AM Posts: 578 |
HEY, what about me? I have commen since. | ||
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| Man of War |
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Man of War
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Joined: Thu Nov 17 2005, 05:55AMPosts: 6 |
since? dont we mean sense? | ||
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