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| Wu-banga |
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Registered Member #49
Joined: Tue Dec 06 2005, 01:37AMPosts: 1561 |
shes not 50-0 or anything, stop getting so worked up. I've spec'd her and she does nothing suspicious. She just got skillz! She listens for movements, and if you look at the CTs most of them charge in like assholes which gives her an advantage. Just dont play stupid guys. Also, you guys make me feel like I don't contribute enough with your DAMNED 5-6 paragraph replies. lol. Edited Tue Jan 30 2007, 08:09PM |
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Hi
Registered Member #301
Joined: Thu Jun 15 2006, 01:55AMPosts: 888 |
No. I get pissed off too when people complain about her hacking. Personally I don't think we're being fair to Kever by banning her for being good. Bind the message "Kever does not hack, shutup." to a key, and just hit it when the topic arises. |
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| A Drunk |
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Registered Member #437
Joined: Sat Sep 23 2006, 02:18AMPosts: 1224 |
I say yes. I am on FTC pretty much every day. Me and her don't usually have that many shootouts but every single time i am on there people are complainaing about her hacking. People are like "why do u guyz still let her play here" and all i can say is that no one has proof. People i see everyday on FTC weather new people or FT's including admins that says she hacks and would like to see her banned. | ||
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| bleek |
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#woo
Registered Member #23
Joined: Fri Nov 25 2005, 11:39PMPosts: 665 |
My vote is that we let her stay. We are goign to simply ban someone becouse their good? I think we're a little better thent that. People can talk all they want, and if you will let a bunch of tards, who don't know what their talking about push you into making a decision like this, I will be really dissapointed. If we ban Kever SIMPLY based on the many complaints, are we going to ban the next person that will be ranked #1, and so on? I hope to God, that we have more sense then this. My vote again: NO, do not ban her. |
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| gLiTch |
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Anal Assassin
Registered Member #455
Joined: Mon Oct 09 2006, 04:58AMPosts: 3848 |
BuBBLe GooSe wrote ... For one.. you cant go by that vote.. Because ppl can be having a bad game and get mad and vote yes. Some people can have some sort of idiotic personal problem with Kever and vote yes. And some ppl will see it as a joke and vote yes. All in all it is not a serious vote. With no proof.I've done 2 ingame votes on a full/near-full server asking "Do you think Kever Hacks" with every vote except 1 or 2 saying "Yes Kever hacks" Clearly our arguing on forums is negating the opinion of the people whose opinion matters most.... the opinions of the people playing. Granted, opinions are subjective and not necessarily rooted in objective truths, but the outcome is still the same. BuBBLe GooSe wrote ... I must say.. where is this information comming from? Majority of players? Show me the statistics. From what i know, ive been playing in FTC a lot. Most of the time im playing.. Kever is playing. And trust me.. Not many ppl are bitching. IF there ARE any at all. And ppl asking for a ban on a daily basis? I dont know, im not an admin... but again, i didnt notice anyone in game asking admins to ban her cept maby for the SAME 3 ppl over and over. ALSO, not one recent thread made on the forums were to bitch about her. In fact.. i dont remember any threads about her since i joined the forums back in October. So i cant honestly see the big deal.The facts are that the majority of players in-game would rather not have Kever playing. That's the bottom line and sure my 2 votes were small samples, but coupled with the BAN KEVER requests that are recieved by admins on a daily basis, what is in the best interests of the server would be for Kever to play elsewhere. BuBBLe GooSe wrote ... Maby you dont know this Bubble because when i see you play its usually late at night. But i see Kever a lot on CT as well. PLUS, Steel is just as good as Kever and if Kever is on T... Steel is ALWAYS on CT. Thus evening out the teams. Now about her causing people to leave.. How you know people left because of that? How you know that they werent gonna leave either way whether Kever was playing or not? You dont. Unless everyone of them messaged you before they left and said Kever is bullshit.I fail to see how people complaining about Kever helps to promote a "fun and competative environment" when the fun is taken out of everyone's game everytime she plays and admins have their ears talked off by ban requests. I fail to see how Kever promotes a competative environment when she destroys CTs and causes them to leave without so much as swapping herself to CT to make up for the disparity in team sizes she caused. BuBBLe GooSe wrote ... I did a mental cost/benefit analysis and tried to be as objective as possible using only the replies in this thread and I fail to see how the benefit of Kever's play on the server outweighs the burdens. Bubble.. i luv you... And im not trying to flame you. But i cant help but disagree. This is once again my triple post only because i fight for what i believe in. I have a passion for arguing. Just liek you when u wrote your post. But im trying as best i can to make ppl vote in my favor lol. Like i said... She has done nothing wrong at all ever. According to OUR RULES, she has every right to stay. Banning her, because a "few" of the "same" ppl (since they ARE reg's), are bitching about her being too "good", just doesnt make any sense.. Like i also said.. we have come this far without losing anybody over her.. Why would it make any difference if she stayed? I have nothing against you bubble but i think ur missing a lot of facts. And i tend to wonder if you have anything against her. <3 you bubble. So if Kever goes, is Steel next? What about later on down the road when another good player comes along. We gonna ban them too? See my point yet? Not to mention that Kever doesnt play much anywayz to be annoying ALL the time. P.S. If you vote her out im gonna turn Emo. Edited Tue Jan 30 2007, 08:35PM |
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Registered Member #251
Joined: Wed May 10 2006, 10:47AMPosts: 227 |
i say im not a very good player but ive gone FT with like a 80-20 kd in a couple of instances.......im sick of joining ftc and kever is always like this < ... i mean i dotn care if she hax, it doesnt matter. tell her she needs to go to a server that will acaully be a cahllenging This shit reminds me of bullys in school lol. they r huge and pick on the weaker kids . Kever represents the bully and we all represent the abused. we are an elite gruop of CSS players and yet we seem to get owned by kever again and again. i say ban only because i think she only enjoys the server because either A. noone else hacks like her or #2. that noone else is as good as her if you need CSS to feel good about yourself, plz uninstall Peace Twitch (poE) |
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Havok
Registered Member #442
Joined: Thu Sep 28 2006, 06:41PMPosts: 115 |
Do believe i've been around long enough to voice my opinion. While some of the kills kever gets are sketchy, it doesn't seem that kever hacks. As AP said there is no conclusive proof. So I will not base my vote off of that. On the other hand, I have been on a lot during the week recently and I have noticed that every time kever is on everyone with a FT tag next to their name is, not sure how i should put this, given the burden of explaining why kever hasn't been banned. Players complain about how obvious it is kever hacks not knowing anything about hacking and then blame admins and clan members of doing a bad job because they haven't banned kever yet. Honestly, as annoying as it is to hear everyone bitch about kever's "hacks" and the kever "followers", considering the fact that kever basically asked to be banned and the time that regs/members/admins spend explaining kever on FTC kever should be banned. Nothing against Kever of course. I love playing with people as skilled/ more skilled then me because that is the only way to actually get better. See you around. So my vote is YES, and I will add more to this post as i continue to read the thread. |
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Meteor 2016
Registered Member #316
Joined: Mon Jun 26 2006, 09:14PMPosts: 3503 |
That's a stupid fucking generalization that she enjoys the server because nobody is good as her. I don't even know why you bothered to move your fingers in a coordinated motion to type that. Tell me when you find someone that is fucking stupid enough to stay in a server for that reason. If she was that way then she'd brag about raping kids every day with her score. If she was that worried then how come she doesn't even argue when she gets switched, never stacks teams. She follows the rules, doesn't tk, and just acts like a normal kid. If Kever is a bully then I'm fucking Tommy Vercetti. To Bubble's opinion. You said that removing one will save 6-10 people in your comparison with babies. What exactly are we saving? I still see the normal regulars every day in FTC. To save us from getting complaints from people that bitch because they can't play the Goddamn game as good as she can? Hey people whine so why not get rid of an FTC player that has showed that they comply with the rules and is a regular just because she is good? And after hearing that you used admin commands to make her drop her weapons for that matter is kinda bullshit. I thought we were trying to attract people, not show them that "If we think you're good we're going to abuse admin on you!" I didn't think you would go as to far as to do something like that but I guess I'm wrong. |
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| Kalibur |
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Registered Member #101
Joined: Thu Dec 29 2005, 01:04AMPosts: 578 |
I vote YES to the damn ban I have had the same problems as goose, players asking “why you not ban?†or "So you’re going to let a haxer stay?" I'm tired of it and I personally was going to ban Kever a few times but I did not because I knew Alex said hold off on it and I knew that other people would be pissed... but you have no idea how hard it was for me not to type ma_ban Kever 0 Kever has made it to the point where I don’t want to play on FTC because when I play and she/he is on I get complaints I get people xfireing me saying ban kever I cant take that shit every time I play some times I just want to play FTC and not do any admin shit at all, and other times when I’m on FTC and I’m lucky enough that no one is xfireing or screaming at me about kevers haxing I still don’t want to play because I SOOOO want to ban this play omg so if I’m not he server and kever is there I just fucking leave and say to me self "fuck this shit" Alex you might not think kever haxs or you might idk but a lot of people that are long time regs do think she/he haxs and I think we should ban kever one new coming reg being banned is okay because we are losing a lot of newcomers because they don’t want to get killed over and over or they don’t want to play on a server with a haxer so I say in my opinion 1 new comer reg banned is better maybe hundreds of new comes. So ban Kever? Hell YES Let a haxer stay on the server and lose many many new comers? Hell NO PS: I would like to point out that kever did make a post Kever wrote ... Please, just lock this thread and ban me. I don't wanna anymore.  For a person who claims they DON’T hax she/he is not whiling to put up a big fight and try to stay on FTC Kevers post alone is BS I might a true reg and lover of FTC would make a post the size of gooses or other long post and make some good points or plead a case but I think the reason kever just made a little post is because she/he knows the time has come and people know and are tired of here haxs in her/his mine he/she is like “Well I knew I could only get away with it for so long time to find a new server and hope they are stupid and don’t see my haxs†That’s what I have to say on this. Oh also Don’t read over everyone’s posts and change your thoughts about Kever make your post as its your opinion don’t vote Yes or No because your friends did or because you don’t want to be seen bad in others eyes fuck that step up and be a man/woman and make a post that is all you!!!!!!! Also Nostie if you come in and drop a 1 line post that says any thing about my post or if you find a word that is misspelled or anything don’t post about it keep it to your self! This is neither the time nor thread to make a spam post about some member’s misspelled posts |
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| The Caller of Ktulu |
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Registered Member #310
Joined: Fri Jun 23 2006, 07:01AMPosts: 564 |
i propose we have a vote in the FT community, oops too late  Anyways, i vote she stays. 1. We dont have solid proof of her hacking. 2. She could just be good at office. 3. If she hacks, how come there is sum1 who is doing better than her in rank? 4. Shes never really caused a problem, other than pwning too much and making people bitch. 5. She doesnt break rules. Edited Tue Jan 30 2007, 09:25PM |
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