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| Zadkiel |
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Registered Member #612
Joined: Wed Mar 21 2007, 09:18PMPosts: 15 |
Alright I know I was on good terms with most members here for the longest while then there were some problems which we fixed and resolved. I respect your admins and do as I am told. (most times, not everyone is perfect.) So I just started playing in the server again, respecting rules, admins and just having fun, I come for the people not the game. So recently I have been have problems with a certain Admin. Jesus Thazal. For reasons he has grown to hate me, and in the same I have grown to hate him. But I do not show this when I am playing. I say nothing to him, unless spoken to or am defending myself or someone else that he is abusing. So I come into the server today, just recently before this post will be posteed. And deagle eagle beaver feaver can back me up. I am saying nothing just playing the game. Now I notice that Jesus thazal is very strict on making sure that people get the hosties once he dies. He slaps you, warns you and keeps posting in the admin message style to get the hosties. So we are all playing and he is last one left, with one other on the t teams. So he is chasing him down, not getting the hosties. The round ends and a few of us are like::: Qoute "*DEAD* Deagle Fever Beaver Heaver : hosties?" Quote "*DEAD* ﮎynfull | Zadkiel : HOSTIES WHAT THE FUCK" Qoute "team.no clan | Zero : objectives Jesus noob!!!" Then I was like:::: Quote "ﮎynfull | Zadkiel : YOU PUSH US TO GET THEM WHY AITN YOU GETTING THEM ﮎynfull | Zadkiel : WHY CAUSE YOUR ADMIN" Then the round started and this is what happened. (ADMIN) [FT] Jesus {TZAHAL}[9²5]: slayed player ﮎynfull | Zadkiel So I was like ok ok, bite your tounge and say nothing, hes trying to get me angry enough to call him down to the dirt for an easy way to ban me.(Thats my train of thought, I aint biting for it.) So then I am like ok what ever dude, then after another round this is what happens. Quote "[FT] Jesus {TZAHAL}[9²5] : here how about this zad" (ADMIN) [FT] Jesus {TZAHAL}[9²5]: slayed player ﮎynfull | Zadkiel Ok so thats fine, thats twooo slays now for no good reason, He is saying I am beening annoying, and for that He can slay me. But I am clearly talking to Deagle Eagle beaver fever and he will vouch for me which i was. (And the talking may bother him but no one else. For example FT Drunk Nightrider goose and rockstat if willing can prove that its bullshit to slay for the talking, because if so they would have been slaying each other all night on Friday. For us 5 were talking and having a great time, so the talking aint a good base to slay on for as I said rockstar and goose would have been slaying me drunk nightrider and them selves all friday night. So thats all right then, I continue to play the game. There is me and him left in a round, there may have been one more guy, cant quite recall. But Me and Jesus were T, and there were way more cts then us two. So I know there are a pile of them in the hosties room on the long hall side, I can hear them as can he. Hes standig in the door looking at connector waiting to shoot someone, and I haul out a flash to throw it out so that I can hopfully blind as thats what flashes do, He side steps into it, It hits him for 1 damage on armour and does not make it out the door. So the result is we are both flashed. then this occurs::: (ADMIN) [FT] Jesus {TZAHAL}[9²5]: slayed player ﮎynfull | Zadkiel He says I did it on purpose. I am not trying to flash him on purpose when there is us two or as I said I think one more of us left and out numbered greatly by CTs, I want to win, I want to flash them so I can kill them. Then he Slays me. As well I notice that when there are other admins on he does not abuse me. But when it is just him as a admin online I get smashed as you can see from the proof above. Anyways I would like to thank you for reading this post and hope some action can be taken towards him if you find he is in the wrong after hearing his side of the story, right cause there is always two sides to a story. I feel I have a strong case here and would hope for you guys to please consider this. Thank you for your time. Zadkiel |
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| Madvillain |
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Registered Member #445
Joined: Sun Oct 01 2006, 11:42PMPosts: 2233 |
lol im surprised zad didnt post this awhile ago. | ||
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| Jesus[tzahal] |
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![Jesus[tzahal]](/media/avatar/100x0/upload/mango_kiwi.1172003384.jpg)
Registered Member #530
Joined: Wed Jan 03 2007, 10:56PMPosts: 807 |
"He side steps into it, It hits him for 1 damage on armour and does not make it out the door. So the result is we are both flashed. then this occurs:::" I was standing completely still and that's why I slayed "For reasons he has grown to hate me, and in the same I have grown to hate him. But I do not show this when I am playing. I say nothing to him, unless spoken to or am defending myself or someone else that he is abusing." For reasons of you being an all-around douchebag day after day, I have grown to hate you, and for this reason of me hating you, you have grown to hate me. Amen. You do this when playing one hundred perfuckingcent. I have demos to prove it to. You say many things to me "oh yeah jesus turn it up turn it up that's what I'm talking about" You keep being a douche on the MIC. No text to back me up, that's why I record my games. I have several demos waiting for review to prove my innocence and your guilt. Repeated annoyance (mic spamming, text spamming or being a dork) results in admin punishment Admin punishment is final If you think there is abuse report on forum Do NOT argue in game I warned you, what do you do? You argue in game. Not wise. Slay. I do not kick/slay for mic talking right away. I slay for music coming out and not stopping after I warn, and I warn to keep to a MINIMAL, not to cut out all together. Drunk calls me a "little emo bitch" all the time on the mic, but he doesn't do it constantly throughout the round, and he does it when he is dead. I talk on the mic too... I speak about in game stuff ("he's in longhall!" or "watch the flash!" or "back back back") when I am alive. When I am dead I can have conversations that you have when you are alive. But I don't do that still. I speak on the mic only when there is mic silence so there isn't five million people speaking at once. Most of the time I type. Deagle can back you up with the events on today. I can even admit that what you did say is true. MOST of what you said is true. "So then I am like ok what ever dude, then after another round this is what happens. Quote "[FT] Jesus {TZAHAL}[9²5] : here how about this zad" (ADMIN) [FT] Jesus {TZAHAL}[9²5]: slayed player ﮎynfull | Zadkiel"" That is NOT the ENTIRE story. I will review my demo now to clarify my claim. |
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| O_Mega |
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Inconsistant Ownage Device
Registered Member #59
Joined: Sat Dec 10 2005, 06:12PMPosts: 1058 |
One small note, stop writing everything in caps lock. No wants to hear it, and it makes us annoyed. If you want to talk, or say something, so be it, but "WTF IM BEING ADMIN ABUSED COME DO SOMETHING" "JESUS HOSTIES WTF" "WHY AM I BEING SLAYED" Just gives the wrong impression. | ||
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| Hakha[reaper] |
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![Hakha[reaper]](/media/avatar/100x0/upload/vida2.1170289297.jpg)
Registered Member #554
Joined: Tue Jan 30 2007, 10:44PMPosts: 10 |
Hey everyone i have seen some abuse not to that extent, but i have seen it. I used to not like jesus but i got over it and now we are cool but admin abuse isnt. IF thats true that sucks | ||
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| Zero |
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I want to fuck your hand.
Registered Member #571
Joined: Thu Feb 15 2007, 09:59PMPosts: 2809 |
Jesus was being rude. it didnt need to go any further then "okay, I didnt get the hosties, I thought I had the guy then I died. im sorry" woopty fuckign doo. but now, he was bitching at people for not getting hosites, didnt get them himself, and he died on a 1 on 1 situation where he had plenty of time to get hosties. I was being more of a douche then zad and out of the bunch harrassing Steel, he chose Zad to bash on. was total bullshit. I dont care if he's in 925, or a respected admin, it didnt need to go any further then him realizing his mistake and not pressuring other people about when he was a hippocryt and not doing it himself. I was being a total asshole about it, and I see that now, and im sorry for all im saying, I just hate these little fucking drama issues in the tank anymore so I think everyone needs to fucking chill, and get back in a play P.S. Snowflake kitten purposely TKed Steel saying "he wants to slay for no reason, ill slay him" and was later banned. I dont know how long it is, but that decision was Steel's and I respect that one, even if the kid was cool |
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| Jesus[tzahal] |
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Registered Member #530
Joined: Wed Jan 03 2007, 10:56PM Posts: 807 |
60min ban for intentionally TKing with prior arrangements. It wasn't just an intentional TK on a random person, it was planned for me. I just got halfway through the demo right where I slayed Zad, and right before everyone typed the hostie thing, I heard Zad say "EVERYONE" on the microphone. He pulled a 'voteban' scenario and rallied up people to call me out to my understanding of the situation. Continuing review... K, right before I slayed you said on the mic "I'll get banned now" Two reasons you would say this: You realized that what you said was uncalled for. OR You wanted me to ban so you could report abuse.. which you did I choose the latter ADDITION: when I said "here how about this zad" is to give you a reason to report abuse. You had already made your decision to report 'abuse' on the forums which means your initial intent was to sucker me into an 'admin abuse trap' I slayed based on my theory, which would actually warrant a forum post. ADDITION: When I said "no you arent" to your allowance of speaking it was about arguing me decision not your right in general You then went to intentionally annoy me by having a microphone conversation with Beaver to try to suck me into another one of your traps Last Addition for now: Your chat log: "2007-07-07 18:38:02 Say I said "mr power trup". FTC cs_office" "2007-07-07 18:38:24 Say I said "shove the motd where the sun dont shine  ". FTC cs_office"No respect for FTC rules or administrators. 2007-07-07 18:08:37 "RIGHT SEE CAUSE YOUR ADMIN ". 2007-07-07 18:08:28"WHY CAUSE YOUR ADMIN". 2007-07-07 18:08:28"HOSTIES WHAT THE FUCK". 2007-07-07 18:08:28"YOU PUSH US TO GET THEM WHY AITN YOU GETTING THEM". Your ALL CAPS ISNT VERY FRIENDLY AND MAYBE THAT IS WHAT MADE ME MORE ANGRY TO TAKE MORE ACTION THAN REQUIRED. "because if i know where the T is -- if he is in close proximity". "then killing him is my other objective". "but if there are 2 and i dont know where they are". "then hosties are the way to go". Then when you argued me: "read motd. annoying behaviour.." "also admin decision is final". "so stop talking". "no you arent". "thats the point". You spoke on the mic so you don't have a chat log, but I was telling you to stop arguing it and you not only continued to argue, but you sparked a conversation with Deagle to purposely annoy me. 2007-07-07 18:24:13 Say I said "jesus is such a waller, but with no aim bot". FTC cs_office 2007-07-07 18:23:49 Say I said "hacked". FTC cs_office 2007-07-07 18:21:05 Say I said "pwnt". FTC cs_office 2007-07-07 18:19:28 Say I said "lolzorz". FTC cs_office 2007-07-07 18:18:30 Say I said "i got hacked". FTC cs_office Maybe that is why he sides with you to claim admin abuse; because he THINKS I hack he wants to make life difficult for me. Edited Sat Jul 07 2007, 11:43PM |
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| 5 Dollar Holler |
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Registered Member #494
Joined: Tue Nov 21 2006, 12:47AMPosts: 381 |
While i'm inclined to side with Zadkiel, I do want to say that Jesus makes FTC a better server in general at least. Even admins may have their bad days. Look at the list of FTC Admins. 21 people with SOME sort of admin power. I usually spend at least 2 hours a day (usually between 5pm and 10pm EST) on FTC. This is what i'd like to call prime time of availability. I only see 3 Admins out of that 21 on a regular basis. I'm not going to use names, but the one I will is Jesus being one of those three. Another 6 are sparatic and I may see them twice a month. Looking at the final 12, some of them I havent seen on FTC in MONTHS (unless they're using different ingame names and not using admin powers). What i'm getting at, is theres ALWAYS bullshit going on in the game. People who go AFK, people who decide to go on TKing sprees, hackers, etc. Probably 90% of my sessions, theres been a need for admin action at one point (votekicking is very difficult to achieve many times). I guess what i'm trying to say is even if Jesus DID mess up, he's one of the three best admins we have as far as activity and, in general, fairness. |
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| Omni |
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terrible one
Registered Member #33
Joined: Tue Nov 29 2005, 11:50PMPosts: 1292 |
Jesus[tzahal wrote ... 1] 1 K, right before I slayed you said on the mic "I'll get banned now" Two reasons you would say this: You realized that what you said was uncalled for. OR You wanted me to ban so you could report abuse.. which you did 2 'admin abuse trap' you missed a third option, you two have a history of dislike, maybe he realized that confronting you in this way will anger you enough to ban him... 2 it also looked like you tried to make him argue in game too, both set up traps. email/xfire me the videos EDIT: not saying either are right or wrong. the videos will help with that. however i do know that jesus is a good admin. Edited Sat Jul 07 2007, 11:42PM |
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| Zadkiel |
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Registered Member #612
Joined: Wed Mar 21 2007, 09:18PM Posts: 15 |
Ok going agianst what I am arguing, I still am man enough to say Jesus IS a good admin. And I will also say, that Jesus "sits" in that server by himself sometimes for close to an hour or more without people in there trying to attrack people in. (You usually use a different name though while you sit idle. I know this cause I always check what game your in.) And yes once again I can give him props for keeping cts on there toes. But at times as I argued he does abuse. Wheather he likes the overwhelmming feeling he gets from telling people what to do and knowing he can carry out action if he wants, I dont know. And yes me and Jesus have not liked each other. I did not post this first statement in "hopes" of getting his power destroyed or revoked, nor did I think that could happen anyways. I posted just to bring attention to some of the inapproiate things at times he may carry out. I just hoped that some how he could be talked to too help take that very little chip he has hovering over his shoulder away. Jesus this is to you : As I said above a few sentences back, I just want to see a little change in your methods of madness, no pun intended. I am willing to burying the hacket where it stands right now and call the differences we have water under the bridge and start fresh. Still I would like to see your admin governing change a little. Please consider what I said. Thank you Thanks for your time all and the quick response into looking into this matter  Cheers all and have a good saturday night. |
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