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| jigg4joe |
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Registered Member #326
Joined: Wed Jul 05 2006, 04:15AMPosts: 635 |
i follow the camping rules as "guidelines", then leave the rest up to judgment. a couple of my own guidelines: *if the time is nearing the 1 minute mark, anyone still at back window or front stairs/office is, in my opinion, camping. *it takes just under 30 seconds to rescue the hosties from T spawn. if any CT is still outside of T spawn at 30 seconds that is, in my opinion, camping. *any CT who spends roughly 30-45 seconds on one side, then decides to turn around and run back through garage is, in my opinion, camping. *any CT consistently the last CT alive is, in my opinion, camping. i RARELY slay for camping unless it's SUPER blatant, but any CT breaking the guidelines will receive warning and then slap for 0 damage. if they still don't get it, usually a beacon or a good slap spamming. i reserve slays for repeat offenders. |
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| Czech Pride |
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Registered Member #518
Joined: Wed Dec 27 2006, 01:15AMPosts: 911 |
The whole point of the CT's is too rescue the hostages. There is no time for messing around while human lives are at stake. I think that in the Fish Tank community we try to make it as intense and realistic as possible, so I support any action that will be taken against these people who try to find loopholes in the rules! | ||
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| O_Mega |
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Inconsistant Ownage Device
Registered Member #59
Joined: Sat Dec 10 2005, 06:12PMPosts: 1058 |
Ill agree with that as soon as we can cut the power, fill tspawn with tear gas, and rappel through the windows. Intense and realistic : ) | ||
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| jigg4joe |
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Registered Member #326
Joined: Wed Jul 05 2006, 04:15AM Posts: 635 |
i'll agree with that if Ts can buy gask masks, flamethrowers, and a-p mines 
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| alcosatz |
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FT Classic Op
Registered Member #39
Joined: Fri Dec 02 2005, 10:30PMPosts: 1545 |
Omega wrote ... Ill agree with that as soon as we can cut the power, fill tspawn with tear gas, and rappel through the windows. Intense and realistic : ) Though it doesn't really fit your criteria, I have an intense urge to play SOF2 in infiltration mode on the 'shop' map. I swear Fetus and I played a solid 300 hours of that between beta and retail release of SOF2! Anyways, I'll try to post some thoughts on refining the non-objective camping policy a little later. Good topic! 
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| aborted fetus |
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The All-Cum Diet
Registered Member #47
Joined: Mon Dec 05 2005, 04:55PMPosts: 1888 |
Alcohol-Powered wrote ... Though it doesn't really fit your criteria, I have an intense urge to play SOF2 in infiltration mode on the 'shop' map. I swear Fetus and I played a solid 300 hours of that between beta and retail release of SOF2! Ah, yes, good times. Hours and hours of pwning domes, drinking 40oz's, and making prank calls. |
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| O_Mega |
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Inconsistant Ownage Device
Registered Member #59
Joined: Sat Dec 10 2005, 06:12PM Posts: 1058 |
Seriously, does Fetus live in your basement with a bunch of little boys Alex? Or is he your alter-ego? I have yet to figure out how you manage to both play at the same time ^ ^ On another note, that does sound like fun, I may have to go d/l it : ) But back on topic. I still believe admins should be able to assess each situation and deal with it without super strict guidelines. Last time I played with Fetus (I smell a gay joke coming) all the ts camped snowman. Yes the CT's rescued the hosties, and yes, we lost, but everyone was having a good time and nobody needed to be warned/slayed/ect. How bout we leave a little room in the rules for....you know......fun : ) | ||
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| *Kill Time* |
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Registered Member #543
Joined: Sun Jan 21 2007, 06:33AMPosts: 497 |
I hate campers... esp ct campers. lawl imma post my thoughts about it later | ||
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| Jesus[tzahal] |
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Registered Member #530
Joined: Wed Jan 03 2007, 10:56PMPosts: 807 |
Maybe you are unfamiliar with Lifestyles, Midnight, Trackman Baller, etc.. all of them camp round after round, but all manage to find loopholes. When I hit a bind to get them or any other CT moving I always hear "im going im going chill out" when it's 1 min at back window and No t's nearby.. I'm just trying to get on the same page as everyone else so that when I do admin chat or a player gets warned/punished that they know it's the rules (this is mainly a concern with the regulars.. as I have already said, the newcomers to the server will adapt the rules that admins impose on them, but the regulars will say 'but this admin didn't do that, and that admin didn't do this' etc..) Keeping everyone on the same page to discuss what useless running around or time wasting is needs to be clearly defined.. I know, I know, it is all dependent on a situation, but a basic guideline should be in place for an admin to fall back on. Or how about "If an admin warns don't take it too personally, it is just a friendly reminder". Usually I hit my f12 bind which says "When in doubt, hosties are your friends!!" which can work for both the T and CT side. Why T you ask? Well today a scenario happened where a CT ran into projector room and killed a T while accidentally murdering the two hostages. The other CT ran into T spawn from long hall and got the last 2 hostages. The Terrorist stood in Projector Room waiting for the CT. Saying "When in doubt, hosties are your friends!!" can be a reminder to the Terrorist that his camping is actually guarding/protecting/sweeping. Having a terrorist camping PR looking at storage while the two hostages are in the other room is just as useful as a Terrorist camping Snowman... But then when I have the actual people sitting still, at about 15 seconds I will warn, and about five seconds later, if they haven't moved AT ALL then I will slap. If that doesn't get them moving, then I'll bring out the slay, but usually I won't slay unless it's a repeated offence. I will warn and slap one round, I will warn when the round is up, then if they continue to camp, I will give an early warning and I actually count 20 seconds on the in-game timer. If they haven't moved with no threats in proximity then I will slay. They've been warned, so they get the slay, I will re-warn then if they continue I will slay without reminding. The slay is the reminder. |
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I want to fuck your hand.
Registered Member #571
Joined: Thu Feb 15 2007, 09:59PMPosts: 2809 |
Jesus[tzahal wrote ... ] But then when I have the actual people sitting still, at about 15 seconds I will warn, and about five seconds later, if they haven't moved AT ALL then I will slap. If that doesn't get them moving, then I'll bring out the slay, but usually I won't slay unless it's a repeated offence. I will warn and slap one round, I will warn when the round is up, then if they continue to camp, I will give an early warning and I actually count 20 seconds on the in-game timer. If they haven't moved with no threats in proximity then I will slay. They've been warned, so they get the slay, I will re-warn then if they continue I will slay without reminding. The slay is the reminder. But like bob said, it doesnt need to come to a slay right away, use your slap stick instead for a while, spam it if you have to, THEN they know whats up. jumping right to a slay, could be wrong because 40% of players dont play with sound, and more of those probably dont read ANYTHING in the chat box, let alone admin chat. After you slap them, its like "oh fuck I must be doing something wrong!" because its visual, and they OBVIOUSLY know admim want them to do something. On a side note, im not trying to be a dick, but are you trying to get the guideline more strict so that when you take "necessary" precautions to stop camping, etc, that they cant call out Admin abuse? Like Omega said, he has assessed the situation many times without being called out on it, maybe just try and get a new method of warning people? I only say this because yeah its an annoying issue, but its not something that needs to be handled like a Code 5 Top secret mission. I think if you just try other methods to get to people and let them know, without drilling them and slaying them, things can still run smoothly. |
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