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I want to fuck your hand.
Registered Member #571
Joined: Thu Feb 15 2007, 09:59PMPosts: 2809 |
gLiTchâ„¢ wrote ... I am rather disappointed in our leadership. Im starting to wonder who is in charge. Ive seen jack shit so far. No Alex. Omni Doesn't Know what to do. I haven't heard a bubble goose post in about a week. Omega hasn't been here. I mean, I kindof know how you feel glitch, but unless someone wants to take up the position of OP, Head Admin, Lead Admin, etc. Those are the only guys we've looked to for how long... Seems pretty easy to just own a server and "have it there", but it eats you apart having that responsibility, I only assume. I agree I also want a "Jedi Strikes Back" type shit, but I think it needs to wait for the end of summer... Just because a few are "ready to rock and roll", others are still busy, and still relaxing and finishing the summer strong. Just wait for everyone... Give it a little time... Just wait.... Good things happen for those with Patience. |
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Sir
Registered Member #457
Joined: Tue Oct 10 2006, 01:13PMPosts: 2628 |
I'm not sure what you expect from the "leaders". Perhaps you could clarify that. But basically the only person with any tangible part in any of this is Omni, because he has the $292. Alex was reluctant to revive the nFO FTC server after the initial switch to Galore (you know having quit and all). But after some discussion, we became motivated to bring it back. However when it was brought back, except for the initial week, the motivation to continue the grueling process of populating it quickly eroded any confidence that this was a good idea. (just look at HLSX) Goose, well Goose was involved in those early discussions of switching back to nFO from Galore. I think I remember him being on board with the idea, but to be honest, I can't remember Goose chiming in on anything except the most recent post in Omni's thread about the ending of FTC. (something to the effect of "The money was intended for FTC, I say we use it to extend that.") He has been MIA and when he has posted it hasn't been to strategize a game plan at all. Omega? I really don't think Omega cares and wasn't involved in the initial FTC revival conversations at all and since CAL has shown no interest to be involved in anything FT related. Action Steps: If you want FTC back you need to. A) Find a server hosting company.  Convince Alex to either OP it or give you the files so you can OP it or create your own server with the mods/plugins you want.C) Convince Omni to release the funds to the OP to purchase the server. D) Populate it. E) Make sure at least 51% of the people who have a say in the matter agree with you. WHo has a say in the matter? That's what you will have to figure out. I strongly suggest that only the future contributors/populators have any say to be honest with you. So while I applaud your recent efforts and consideration, I think the phrase "Too little, too late." applies here. Also, while I understand that the server going away has caused some "HEY WAIT WE CAN'T LET THIS HAPPEN!" responses... I realized this over a month ago... at which time I bit the bullet and with the help and support of Alex, brought back the nFO server. Remember this thread about the return and stats of connections -[link]- and this thread about how to Populate a server -[link]- The only people who even responded in these threads were, Bandito, Glitch, Rusty, Japa, Ruskiy, Alex and Yourdroid. In other words, that's 7. SEVEN people (8 including me) who gave enough shits about FTC to even comment on how we might ATTEMPT to revive it. I'm sorry people but you can't popluate a server with 8 people. Unless, like I've already mentioned, you schedule a time where all 8 of you are on at the same time. I also grew frustrated with the results and felt as if I was expending more effort than was healthy, fair or warranted which resulted in me saying fuck it here -[link]- So there you have it, that's the current reality synopsis. My suggestion? Fuck it. Go play on different servers, FT will be a forum/surf clan and uh... ya... that's it. That's what I'm going to do anyway, does it suck? Yep it sure does, but I don't see how to revitalize the active member base. SPeaking of which, with only surf stats available, and the fact that normal people don't play surf, I think the recruiting for FT will either A) not happen at all or needs to be rethought entirely. But this is a future problem as we don't have anyone looking to join... |
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Sir
Registered Member #457
Joined: Tue Oct 10 2006, 01:13PM Posts: 2628 |
P.S. Due to the relative success of HnS compared to both FTC and Surf, I really don't think it should be dismissed so quickly. It's working, it's bringing non-FT people to the forums. Isn't this the ultimate goal? Hell there's a question. What is the GOAL of our servers? Or how about of FT in general? Does everyone agree on what the GOAL is? Does anyone even know what it is? Perhaps clarifying the GOAL will help us formulate a plan for achieving it. And you're going to say "to have fun" ya well If the goal is "to have fun" then... then what... Any goal should be read in an IF THEN format. In other words state the goal, then say "If the goal is ____" then we "Need to ______" Example If the goal is to have fun, then we need to determine what most people consider fun. (research) Ok if most people consider 24/7 office fun then we need to create a 24/7 office server. Ok if we have a 24/7 office server then we need to populate it to ensure that the level of fun is maintained. If we need to populate the server then we need at least 12 people on during peak times (9pm-1am EST). If we need at least 12 people on during peak times then we need to find these 12 people and see if they can commit to being on during peak times. But do you see how we went from an IF goal THEN steps that lead to goal. And then you use the new step as the new goal and eventually you will get... IF the goal is to have fun THEN we need to get 12 people to commit to joining the server at peak times. Something that usually was never even considered as being part of the goal is often the most important step needed to achieve it. This works with anything, I just used FTC as a (crude) example I also ignored the whole series of "If you need a server then..." but you can use it in every aspect of your life. Just say IF "goal" THEN "whatever logically comes to mind for achieving the goal" and then do it again, using the second statement as the new goal. Eventually you'll boil it down to the root of the matter and what you need to focus your efforts on. (it gets alot more complex in organizations with multiple goals or factors of external influence, but fortunately we don't have that problem here) Edited Wed Aug 13 2008, 06:51AM |
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Joined: Tue Mar 07 2006, 12:07PMPosts: 3146 |
wrote ... P.S. Due to the relative success of HnS compared to both FTC and Surf, I really don't think it should be dismissed so quickly. this is exactly what ive been trying to say for 2 weeks now. we're finally getting regulars who populate the server themselves. for one week straight i've seen a full server in primetime. last night, we had a full server, and me, mdogg, and kool aid were the only FT members on (with the occaisonal pop-in from monkey). So dont throw h&s in the bucket just yet. if we can keep up the connections like we have, thats the direction we should most definitely go in. |
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Sir
Registered Member #457
Joined: Tue Oct 10 2006, 01:13PM Posts: 2628 |
emerican wrote ... So dont throw h&s in the bucket just yet. if we can keep up the connections like we have, thats the direction we should most definitely go in. I don't think it's the direction we should "go" but definitely keep it up and running if it's getting connections. Also, it's friggin dirt cheap. Seriously, after we tried to cancel it and get a refund (when we switched back to nFO) the guy who runs Galore offered us all kinds of incentives. One of which was to lower the recurring rate to $135/3 mo's. THAT'S $45/mo!!! That's fucking wicked cheap. However the decision to renew needs to be made now. (ie. Omni needs to get into this thread) Because it expires... oh wait... did it already expire??? I thought it expired in September??? |
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nightrider![[FT] CaTPooP](/media/avatar/100x0/upload/sketch2s.1145985608.jpg)
Registered Member #122
Joined: Sat Jan 07 2006, 09:16AMPosts: 202 |
where the fuck is evilpig?? the galore debacle, as far as im concerned, is his doing. |
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Meteor 2016
Registered Member #316
Joined: Mon Jun 26 2006, 09:14PMPosts: 3503 |
Evilpig's not even in FT. Why should he care? | ||
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Anal Assassin
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Joined: Mon Oct 09 2006, 04:58AMPosts: 3848 |
Just to clarify.. wat i meant about leadership was i was seeing nobody in charge, taking any say in the matter except for saying goodbyes. Seems to me like the leaders gave up. Now what happens when a leader gives up, and no one takes his place....? Well... everything falls to pieces. Now im not blaming anyone here. I was just stating that it would have been nice for someone to come forward. I tried to come up with a solid plan, i tried to get the hype up.. and i did try to populate the server when i could. I even populated it a couple times with awse <3. But i dont know how to run a server, i hate handling other people's money, and im not much of a leader. I can be at times, but not right now, not with this. I wish i could have done more. It was a failed attempt. Hide and Seek does have its own regulars now. Ive seen it 20/20 with ABSOLUTELY no FT members in it once. Maybe the novelty will wear off, maybe it wont. Its doing good now, and i think we should renew it. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE OMNI RESPOND as to how long we have to renew it. If you let the server die even for a few days, then you will lose most of your regulars. Lets not let that happen twice. Lets keep Hide and Seek and Surf as our main attraction for now until we figure out a well thought out plan for a "Jedi Strikes Back." |
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