Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
Madvillain, Sun Mar 23 2014, 02:33AM

Epic moments in FT history off the top of my head:

the Rollout of the clan Synfull, with Evilpig and others after a certain fallout

KEVER is HACK! lol Kever musta played on our server for years, and every couple of months or someone would make her hacking a serious conversation, I think a couple times she was actually banned...
This went on up until she was finally made a member...yay
(no one ever said anything about Horsecock though, eventhough i thought some of his headshots were ridiculous @ times)

In game I was all about rank, getting to number 1. which was impossible. straight up. never cracked top 5. Bastards like Kever, Horse, Cha, Kalibur, etc would keep me from gettin there.

Theres a ton of people 2 that just vanished (Tastecoldsteel, Caine, Wildcard,) who were all great to have around

I still recall the downfall of FT. I watched it carefully. It happened over the course of a summer (I forget which) when alot of us admin members had to leave for a summer and a bunch of new members were forcibly made admin (sla being top of this list) and then hearing alot of complaints on vent from long time regulars about admin abuse. That whats did it. The regulars is what kept it going, FT members worked more behind the scenes.
But what can you do, little to do about it now, whats done is done, and ultimately the number of players that play CS in general (not just CS Go alone) is a fraction of what it used to be

I don't know how to get back people, thought just havin the forum would be enough, and people have tried before to revive things but ultimately it never works.

They say all good things must come to an end

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
alcosatz, Sun Mar 23 2014, 04:30AM

Thanks for responding. I was beginning to think that this thread would be absolutely devoid of replies.

I'm giving you the full blockquote treatment, but I'm not going to give you lots of shit like I would normally do in any full blockquote treatment; I've changed! Plus, you're named "Alex" and there are too few of us out there.


Synfull was pretty awful if you ask me. EP was pretty cool afterwards, but I remember some feeling some intense, (legitimate!) butthurt over what happened there. Moving on...


No comment / nothing to add. Too much pain over this topic.


You're a good person. I know this to be true, but you must not profane this thread with mention of Kalibur.


I miss wildcard.


Not sure which server you're talking about, but yeah, FT admin delegation has always been a sore topic. Having to manage lots of competing interests meant lots of grief.


I'm tempted to agree with you but I'd like to think that there was more nuance to why FT failed. That said, I'm not in a mood to argue about the details. It sucks, and I'm curious if anyone has a positive spin on how to bring it back; clearly you don't.


You're really bringing me down, man. I was hoping for something better than this.

I'm not expecting a plan for how to time-warp us all back to 2007 when everything was thriving (and it's really depressing to think how many years have passed since then!) Just looking for some ideas on how FT can be more active.

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
emerican, Mon Mar 24 2014, 04:14PM

I've been looking for a good GTA V Online crew to play with, why don't we set up an FT crew? Does anybody else have it for 360? I think the only way to get the feeling back together is through consoles and not everyone has them. That's my two cents

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
Knightrider, Mon Mar 24 2014, 05:32PM

I still play CS:S, I'm a little high in the rankings for FnG's office server. It's a little different than our server used to be, but all-chat and lax rules on sound files played in the server make it pretty fun and unique to play at. I've had a few Fish Tank members play there from time to time, and Zero is a regular there if you all miss his redneck self.

I run their lower-leveled admins that have the most play time. Their escalation procedure is taken directly from ours, so the same types of rules apply except that there is no racism (I think we enforced the same rule as well but doubt it was ever followed.) Prides me to say that a lot of our values were manifested into theirs, and they have been running strong since 2006.

If I had to guess, the downfall of our community started with the annoying shit of switching providers. Back then, finding a great provider has been a nightmare. FnG runs off NFO, which in our brief stint back in 2012 was pretty easy to manage and was pretty reliable. Since the rates are forcibly set now, you can only achieve so much reg and for every plugin you run, the reg downgrades from there. We have a few plugins including noblock, team flash slap, Hostie slayer identifier, SM admin, etc.

Anyways, a little off point there, but when we switched those providers we lost a lot of regulars in the process and it was hard to get them back. Combine that with the Synfull Fish Bowl shit, and you have yourself a recipe for disaster. I can only imagine that this bullshit combined with the haccusations of Kever lead to our demise. It didn't help that our core members grew up and went to college. Your unique personalities made the server really. When people like Wildcard, Fetus, and Bubble Goose disappeared, we lost a unique set of personalities in the server, and you need these kinds of people to retain a population.

I think that's why the current server I play in is successful. There are a few people who crush a case of beer in a night until 2-3 a.m. cracking jokes, talking about politics, or other miscellaneous things that keep everyone else engaged. I also feel that when Alex sobered up, he lost a great deal of patience which lead to his inevitable exit. What does that mean? You should probably go back to Alcohol Powered. Only kidding But chalk me on the list of bad influences, as Alex and I's collaboration a couple years ago involved many nights staying up past 2 A.M. crushing many cans of beer to get us up and running. It was a valiant effort mostly on Alex's part, but the lack of players in a dying game is tough to come by. Hard for a reboot in that case.

Fish Tank had a little too much of a competitive spirit, which took a lot away from the replay value as well. Remember FT-c? Tack that on the list of things that killed the community. There are a million different reasons why we could have failed, but the important thing is that this site still lives on. Content is slow, but you all keep coming back. I miss you all greatly, and wish that we could play together again. I'm still on Steam, I still play CS:S every day. If any of you want to play with me, message me. I go under the alias Devastator, but will change back to Knightrider if requested

In all honesty, I think the only way we can ever have what we had before is to just find a server and play on it. Call us refugees, but no matter what, we will all still be there together again. The best part? When shit hits the fan, someone else will have to do the dirty work (unless you're me in my current office server).

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
alcosatz, Tue Mar 25 2014, 03:47AM

I love you, but some good-natured joking follows. Please don't be offended.


We get it, Nostie: YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND!


That tickles the cockles of my heart. It's good to know that some part of FT (office) lives on, except for the regional KKK branch that we were running. Glad to hear that didn't live on.


This is true. Switching providers was always hell, but Steam didn't support adding servers by DNS name way back in time. Maybe it does now, but that was horrible because we had to figure out how to communicate new IPs and actually have people pay attention. It also sucked how we financed our servers; not going to get into that, but we didn't do a great job with that.

Having written server plugins, it's a battle trying to minimize processing of frames/game events. Some events aren't that bad, like when a round actually ends--other shit, like running plugin code when someone gets killed or (worse) hit by a weapon is just asking for lag.


Well said.


That's some rather, uh... candid advice? Your point is well-taken, though, and I think there were much better ways that I could have handled the various transitions of sobriety and Source-to-GO.

Your new home sounds interesting. You have mentioned it to me before, and I'm considering whether to give it a try. I'll be brutally honest and say that it's probably not going to happen for me, but it seems like the best option out there for FT (office) folks to dick around on an office server.


I agree, and I realized that cTB was (culturally) choking the shit out of our CS:GO server, sort of like it did our earlier CS:S office servers. It was such a fun programming exercise through 2007 that I didn't notice that the goal of a team-balance mod was headed in a very different direction than what most our FT office community wanted. I'm a pretty stubborn person (as if you didn't know!), so I just kept forcing it on everyone right until the end.

Some folks spoke up and a lot of people just went with it. Either way, that was bad leadership on my part. I'm not trying to fall on my sword here, and lots of people will rush to my defense out of loyalty (which I appreciate--I find it more than flattering, trust me), but it's pretty obvious that a lot of my decisions didn't work out so well in the long run... hence our nearly dead community.


And there it is. Find a server and play on it is probably the best advice.

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
b4ndito, Thu Mar 27 2014, 01:55AM

It's been second nature for me to check this forum on a near-daily basis since 2007. That's as sad as it is beautiful. I'm going to wax poetic here, and I do apologize for ignorance of brevity.

There was a time in my life when I had no friends and no family and no direction and no girlfriend and nothing. I'd beaten HL2 and of boredom decided to play CS:S again for shits and giggles. I had a new apartment and too much free time. Randomly, I met Alex in FTC and found a niche where my eccentricities and defunct social and psychological tendencies were not only tolerated but encouraged. I found a community that would welcome my broken little teenage heart and nurture me into manhood.

For all the memories of laughs and horseshitting we did in this community, nothing is more important to me than the friendships of a large group of people I have NEVER ACTUALLY MET IN PERSON. I can't even begin to remember all the weeping posts I've made, all of my alcohol-powered attention grabs, my varied declarations about my life and destinations and loves and such. Not a word from them was relevant, but nothing is more comforting than knowing that near-strangers read them and sympathized.

In a time of my life when I needed grace I found my way into your strange little arms, and you all caressed me so gently, and erotically.

It's well and good to dream about the past. I have a freeze frame in my head of the day my childhood died, and no matter what lens I look through, no matter how I try to recreate that view, it'll never exist in the same capacity. Counterstrike is dead, the FPS genre is dead. We can't recreate it, as we've learned over... four?... four attempts. The King is dead, long live the King.

Find me an MMORPG and I'll build a new PC and join up with you all. I still regret my reluctance to play WoW with you all. It would have suited me better.

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
gLiTch, Thu Mar 27 2014, 02:22AM

Well isnt this the most depressing thread ive come across in a while.

So many feels... such nostalgia...

Ok no more Doge references.


I still remember my first days stumbling onto the office server. I got so excited that this was a community clan and the only way to get in and become a member was to put in the hours, put in the community effort, make friends, and get someone to essentially sponsor you. Every clan i joined previously in CS:S and 1.6 always had competitive tryouts. It was cool but i was so done with that crap. I just wanted to frag and chill and kill time....and drink beer.

Many of you prolly dont even know this but I even had my own server in 1.6 and created my own clan. WkK...the Wicked Killaz. It was a Dust and Dust2 rotation server. I went by the name of DJ gLiTch. I used to have that addon to allow me to play music over the mic...when that was a big hit at first. People always requested songs. The server became huge and was popping at all hours of the day...a lot like FT was in its prime.

We made friends and would server crash this other clans server... qL clan. They were the Quit Life clan. We used to scrim all the time and we both helped each others servers out. It was a great time. I did that for a long while before eventually moving onto source once the server died. Believe it or not...few of the same reasons our died. qL|Lazky was accused of hacking much like Kever was and we never banned him because he was a regular and a friend of the clan for a long time. Also...he was really legit. Truly. Just really good. And people stopped coming around. Then some of the other clan members started to disappear little by little because they were much older. At the time i was a young lad and many of these guys were...yep you guessed it....going to college.

Then we became competitive more than normal. Used to shut down our server for a lil bit every now and then to train for CAL-O. Regular didnt like that but we wanted the fame and glory.

Bottom line is...people change. Lives change. Some people join the military. Others get arrested for child porn. Some get older and start families. Others go to college and drink and fuck bitches. All while new tech and new games come out.



I remember the n0 Fear zombie clan. Me, Wildcard, Angrytoster...them were the days. And it was a hit for a while too. I remember me and Goose in long hall with the scouts. I could never match up with the master. I remember the first time i was coined the "Shotty Hotty" after i wrecked almost the whole CT team single-handedly and won the match...even taking down Kever. It was glorious and the beer couldnt keep me from shaking from the adrenaline.

All those sleepless nights bullshitting with the clan until the wee hours in the morning. I remember how i used to BUG THE SHIT out of you Alex to put in the quake sounds...and at the very least have them have the ability to be enabled/disabled. Nothing gave me a hard on more than hearing LUDICROUS KILL after slaughtering people with my pump shotgun.

lol i remember our Cal matches. They were just another excuse to drink and make fun of each other as we tried to be good at the game. Vent was hysterical. Noskill i think still has that youtube link somewhere with our vent recording of our first match. I remember one match i couldnt make it...i let everyone know in advance that i couldnt. Noskill was filling in for me but he fucking had issues logging into his steam account that day. SO he called me up to ask me for my steam account info so he could play as me. Well when he called i was taking a dump and i answered the phone. He had the phone on speaker the whole time and on vent. Man the noises that came out of me. It was hysterical. And when i flushed...that's when i heard the laughter in the background...and Noskill said that vent was listening in. Them were the good old days.

I have tried several times as everyone knows to revive this clan...and i really thought we had potential with CS:GO. But it was overwhelming at first. The game was still new and people were having a hard time migrating over. And then life got in the way again.


I keep saying this but....Destiny is coming out later this year on the consoles which could be an option to get behind. The only issue is we will all have different systems. I planned on getting a PS4...my first console purchase since PS2. I also pre-ordered Elder Scrolls Online...and will be playing that. I dunno what everyone wants to do. I miss you guys.

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
nostie, Thu Mar 27 2014, 02:47AM

Gotta send a quick reply here because my girlfriend is sitting right next to me and I have to yeah okay we get it i have a girlfriend

I think the basic issue is that everyone got tired of CS:S and GO didn't catch on enough I know that I still maintain contact with a ton of FTers in some form of another outside of ftc.com (facebook, League of Legends, Steam, etc...)

I do feel a bit sad sometimes that there isn't just a good old FT server so that I could log into GO some random day and see 10 people I recognize yet forget at the same time...

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
b4ndito, Sat Mar 29 2014, 12:07AM

I would pay money to listen to Glitch on the toilet again that was the best moment of this community

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
Madvillain, Sun Mar 30 2014, 01:51AM

In retrospect, I am in debt to FT. not only for all the years of fun we've, but for fucking saving my my ass a while ago.


A long long time ago I had met some shady characters that got me into this weird scam. The general gist of it was they would send me checks for there company from customers and i would cash it, and then send them the money via money gram after keeping 10%. so I get one check one morning and deposit it in my Bank of America account for 5,000 bucks. the check clears and everything but I actually get a little suspicious about this. I google a few things about this but I can't really find details about this particular scam anywhere and in the back of my mind I'm saying how could it fool the bank? Confused I eventually make a post here, and everyone basically calls me an idiot, which was very very fitting not definitive. Then Noskill tells me NO and to stop everything right away, and proceeds to explain the scam perfectly in detail. The check would eventually bounce but I would have already sent a wire for 4g, so I would owe the bank 4gs. At 16, I have no idea where the fuck I woulda found 4,000 dollars. That was truly a great save.


Noskill, I just kinda remembered this, and if your out there buddy I owe you a night out on me, no questions asked.

so in reference to the original purpose of the thread, I am here and willing to help with resurrecting FT. I've donated in the past when we tried resurrecting b4 and I'd donate again. I have minimal time for gaming though, between my 50 hr work days and CPA/ finance studying i just don't have much time but I am here to support in the best way that I can

Edit: the original thread asking about the scam is floating around here somewhere, if I find it Ill post the link

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
Madvillain, Sun Mar 30 2014, 02:23AM

Also:

Knight that post was very well said. It really coined in to alot of issues i had forgottn about

and glitch, I you are the man. From Shotty Hotties as I love the pure simple ownage of that gun. I especially loved "the long range 102 dmg in one hit I dunno how the fk shots" were bs, but awesome and you, Wu Banga, Airborne Aggie, Omega, Patio, Cha, Aborted Fetus and a were the first guys I connected with.

And a special shootout to those probably forgettn fun members like Tits from Atlantic city, Reckless, Catpoop, Twitch...

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
V3cT0rMan, Sun Mar 30 2014, 11:21PM

I just wanna add my 2 cents since I don't have any cool nostalgic memories to share other than good times had on the Surf server during the last few remaining months of life the FT clan had.

I'm 99% positive that every and any FT member out there (whether they visit this site or not) still plays video games to some extent. Maybe you can't play til 5 am. Hell, maybe you can only play once a month but I think it's still a part of your life in some shape or form. Like you guys said the age of FPS is over so maybe what this site needs is a revamp instead of a resurrection.

Rather than trying to revive a CS clan, we should think about transforming it into a haven where players can come to meet other players and find teammates to play coop games. I say we because despite not having shared in half the fun you guys talk about, this site feels like a brotherhood that I can honestly say makes me feel welcomed. And yes I check this site almost everyday to see what new thread, link, chat, or rant is posted. To be honest, even reading the nostalgia-threads is worth the visit.

Anyways, plenty of ppl have a loads of games (especially on steam) that would be 10x better to play with another person. Not to mention team-based games like LoL, DOTA, etc.....and all the other games set to come out this summer. At the same time, the site can retain most of what made it great to begin with like heated political debates, deep philosophical conversations about life, and yes, dick jokes (also glitch's random XVID link that always makes the day better)

I know CS will always hold a special place in your hearts along with all the memories and it might feel like "selling out" or something to change the site, but maybe it could work. Like I said, just my 2 cents. Hate it or love it

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
gLiTch, Tue Apr 01 2014, 02:00AM

MV.... i remember that scam. And i remember the shitstorm it created when you posted it here lol. Them were good times (well...yea you know what i mean).

And for anyone wanting to know.... i got Elder Scrolls Online and I am currently playing that for a little bit every day or every other day between work and what not. My name is Typhen. Account name is Typhen, character name is Typhen....yadayada. Search me out.

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
Madvillain, Wed Apr 02 2014, 01:09AM


Man, like there was a point during FT when every single comment had some kind of gayness in it. like every thing we said was gay lol. its crazy how one day it just stopped.

anywho, i mean, in terms of branching out I say go right ahead. start posting topics on other games and inviting ppl to come join the discussion, y not? Before I was thinking about startin a LOL team and woulda made this website a go to for anyone to join. Maybe I will at some point who knows, but I say to anyone to make a post or topic about anything rly.

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
gLiTch, Thu Apr 03 2014, 12:20AM

I love all you homos. LIke big diks in ur ass love. And in mine.

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
elmatador, Thu Jun 19 2014, 03:17PM

Madvillain I see you were as noob IRL as in game. haha

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
Madvillain, Fri Jun 20 2014, 03:29AM


lmfaoaoooooo ahahahahaha I WAS a noob. Truth be told around that time I was pretty much an out of control lunatic so I am not surprised that happened to me. I was a fucking idiot.

NOSKILL!!! WHERE R U BROOO??!1

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
Wu-banga, Wed Jul 02 2014, 05:09AM

This thread is awesome. Good to see all of these faces still popping up. I'm still playing CS:GO pretty consistently. If any of you are still active, please PM me and we'll group up.

Thanks to BubbleGoose, I use a scout 99% of the time I play competitively in CS:GO. Still think about that every time I play and rape with the scout (pretty sure the weapon has a new name in CS:GO, but I can't remember what it is).

Anyway, thank you guys for being a great community. If you're still actively playing, don't hesitate to PM me.

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
NoSkill, Tue Jul 08 2014, 03:46AM

-[link]-

^ best commentary ever. This, is irreplaceable and unforgettable. The porn conversation at the end is awesome lmao.

I don't even remember how I found FT. I know for a few years I played WoW:BC with Kremit. Mage Warlock Arena team... that was a lot of fun. And I have a 5 dig steam id so who knows when I started. Joined the forum in October 2006.

Mad, I'm glad I could help with that Nigerian bank scam lol.

I wrote a whole shit ton of posts about finance and dating and politics and god knows what else. I also liked to use this forum as an outlet, even if no one read it, I had fun just getting it out there.

The downfall of FT started with the faction splits. Half the server started their own server, and both failed. In the attempt to revive it some of us (myself included) got too overzealous, tried fixing the clan with walls of text instead of just playing the game. I remember trying to carry the server by sitting in Spectator for hours on end and I'll be damned if it didn't work a bunch. From 1 on 1, to 3 on 3, next thing you know the server is hopping...

But yes life takes over, video games are a once a week proposition. Work, bills, girls, bars, parties, more work, more bars, DUI's, pets, fuckin shit gets hectic.

I'm going to go try to find some old posts lol.

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
NoSkill, Tue Jul 08 2014, 04:13AM

Found some gems.

-[link]- - lmao me recapping dates??? I did this?!

-[link]- - Lol here's me arguing with everyone about how to fix the community.

I'm also funny lol. -[link]-

"Maybe I should build in a "Don't delete yourself from the team." in that fudamentals list eh? " lmao -[link]-

Lore. -[link]-

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
NoSkill, Tue Jul 08 2014, 05:41AM

Lol Knight what book did I buy you in this thread? -[link]-

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
Madvillain, Wed Jul 16 2014, 01:29PM

[quote]
Found some gems.

-[link]- - lmao me recapping dates??? I did this?!

-[link]- - Lol here's me arguing with everyone about how to fix the community.

I'm also funny lol. -[link]-

"Maybe I should build in a "Don't delete yourself from the team." in that fudamentals list eh? " lmao -[link]-

Lore. -[link]-





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Man I can read these old threads for hours. sooo many gems man. We had a nice thing going ....

But seriously noskill, I owe you BIG TIME. like super big. I may have last 4200 bucks easily had it not been for you. and at 18, i have no idea where i woulda came up with that kind of money.

God dam faggot nigerians.

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
alcosatz, Thu Jul 17 2014, 01:38AM

I have reviewed the posts on this thread, and this is my summary:



I love you all.

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
Knightrider, Tue Jul 29 2014, 02:31PM

Noskill, you sent me some book about getting rid of all of your emotional attachment from things. I did it and all my friends thought I was a dick. I still liked that book though, I wish I could read it again.

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
Jesus[tzahal], Wed Sep 03 2014, 02:59PM

Been 7 years boys. Glad alcohol remembers me =)

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
alcosatz, Mon Sep 15 2014, 10:27PM


It puts a tingle in my dingle that you still check this site!

I hope that things are going well for you. You were one of my favorite admins, and one of the reasons that I gave a shit about keeping FT Classic classy!

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
The Caller of Ktulu, Tue Sep 23 2014, 07:29PM

the buck-all nades suicide stacks were the best.

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
b4ndito, Sun Sep 28 2014, 03:03PM


No your hair swoop was

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
Maddogme, Sat Oct 04 2014, 07:34AM

i only surfed.

i seen't kever hack.

luv u alll.

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
The Caller of Ktulu, Tue Oct 07 2014, 04:09PM


I used to be cool.. haha the hair swoop was the shit back then. Unfortunately it's gone now

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
The Caller of Ktulu, Fri Oct 10 2014, 11:02PM


I used to be cool.. haha the hair swoop was the shit back then. Unfortunately it's gone now

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
b4ndito, Mon Oct 13 2014, 09:45PM



nobody laphs are your jokes. have fun being awkward kyle

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
Rusty, Sat Nov 08 2014, 10:23PM

This got awkward....

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
Evilpig, Thu Feb 05 2015, 07:39AM

I had such good times with you all. I still come here once and a while just to say hi. This thread brought back some memories Been super busy with life. I rarely PC game thanks to carpal tunnel. But I do play ps4 from time to time. Add me if ya want! evilpigster420

Love ya fuckers

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
gLiTch, Fri Mar 20 2015, 08:14PM

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
JohnMayer, Fri Jul 17 2015, 04:08PM

Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
Zero, Wed Oct 28 2015, 07:18PM

Im glad I read all of this, but man did it make me very glum. Theres something to be said about how coming back to this place from time to time tears at your heart strings.

We had something great and ill never forget any of it. Shit, I even remember trying surfing, and being horrible at it. But because of the people that were present, I stuck around and had a blast. Thats what community is, and on some level, you guys were like a family. We were almost always dysfunctional, argumentative, and rarely got a long. Been when we did man... they were fucking great times.

Too many people to shout out to, so to anyone who reads this, much love. <3

Re: That Loving (FT) Feeling
peacebypeice, Wed Oct 28 2015, 11:20PM

You guys do still exist