[poll] Our Clan Is Falling Apart

Noname|Boom, Sat Jan 13 2007, 04:41AM

Lets face it, F7L5 isn't what it used to be, we had lots of people on the server, good admins were on all the time, etc. We had meetings, decided on stuff, discussed, nominated people, just like the forums but it was weekly. We had a hell of a fun time, then as time went on, people started leaving, assholes destroying the clan (like the LG clan issue). I'm sure many of you 'new' members have no idea what i'm talking about, but it was the best back then.

Now, pretty much every old member has left/become a dickhead and got kicked, our OPs play WoW 24/7 and our community has become in the hands of other people. We have rule breakers, dumbasses, etc. on the server, I hardly ever see more than 12+ people on the server, I never see members/regulars on the server because
A - No one's on
B - They're too busy with going to other servers like office
C - They're sick of the abuse/rule breakers, and hardly no admins to serve justice
D - All of the above

So, what the hell are we going to do? We need to get Narf/Pope back here and other members who dont play surf a lot, need some way to attract people, get rid of old admins and give admin to people who actually play, get meetings having a full house, not just 8 members. We need to have maps people like to play on, get rid of bad maps. Maybe add some new features. I know I'm not the only one who thinks our clan is going down the hole. I know some of our members like emerican/kddude/bleek, etc. have tried to help, but we need more than that. I mean, I love F7L5, and I do not want to see it fall apart this easily.
Re: [poll] Our Clan Is Falling Apart
gLiTch, Sat Jan 13 2007, 04:51AM

like u stated.. new members dont know this. i dont know about this because i wasnt aroun here long enough. but i do love to surf. but surfing alone sucks. i go there every now and then. Granted i hate downloading the damn maps, but hey, its worth it. We just need mroe ppl on there. Like office.. when theres ppl on there its fun. Regs and member make it fun. Im sure we will think of something even if it has to do with scrapping it and starting over.
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kevin, Sat Jan 13 2007, 04:53AM

Are you saying that I'm not allowed to play office? I'm in FT too, you know
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Joey Leone, Sat Jan 13 2007, 05:36AM

I'm still here, and I still play. There are a couple F7L5 members I see on regularly, but the majority of the F7L5 roster, I haven't seen in a fare amount of time. It's ridiculous. In the meantime, it seems to me that 90% of the time that I see F7L5 members/admins on, they aren't enforcing rules, or are even breaking them themselves. I rarely play FTC myself, I'm mostly surf.
Re: [poll] Our Clan Is Falling Apart
drunkirishmafia, Sat Jan 13 2007, 06:18AM

i'm not really an old memeber...but i played surf since the beggining of the year and i know excatly what your talking about noname..

i try and play at least once a day...but glitch is right...its not very fun surfing by yourself. i think one of the biggest problem is that no one is on the sever. if it was like it used to be when so many people were always on, i bet we wouldn't even be having this thread.

I think more than just a couple people notice the clan is going for shit...but i think most of the members..that actually play and shit, are trying to straighten it out. We're bringing meetings back, and getting new admins.

Leadership, is what i would say is our biggest problem...bassically, we have none.

The whole updating the server thing is a good idea..i think we should take off maps that are extremely unpopular..maybe add some new ones who knows

Honestly, i don't know what excatly i personally can do to help out other than to just play more and keep the rules, but i definately agree...things should change
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blindsk8tr675, Sat Jan 13 2007, 06:46AM

i play....a lot...cus i suck at office!
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gLiTch, Sat Jan 13 2007, 07:21AM

yea.. i think you should start over and scrap everything. Its like making an old house new.. do u fix all the old floors and walls and paint over the old paint. do you fix the leaks.. NO. you gut the house out and start over with all new floors and pipes and paint. New bathroom and kitchen.

Imo, i think you should take admin away from all the people cept the ones that are still playing surf. Kick all the non-active people out and start over. Re-vamp the server, new maps, take out unpopular ones like drunk said. And advertise. Keep going with the meetings. thats just my two centz.
Re: [poll] Our Clan Is Falling Apart
kd., Sat Jan 13 2007, 07:37AM

I know something we could do. We can add bots in spectator that make it look like the server has more people then it really does, that always makes me join servers. Also, I think the only ting wrong with us right now is the lack of activity on the server.

Glitch, I think that's a good idea.

After all, we gotta keep this clan going. This is a great clan, and like noname said, I'd hate to see it fall apart so easily.

Also, Emerican, Bleek and I can add any mods you think would help the activity of the server and attract more people, just provide the link and we'll put em on. Also, it'd be helpful to tell the maps that people are most attracted to, so then we can try to keep those ones going more often. I know some maps are overplayed, I'll see if there are any new popular ones that all the popular surf servers have on.

hearts

Oh, I forgot. I know this sounds kind of boring/tedious, but what I used to do to get people on the server is just join when no one is there, and just leave css running in the background. Someone will join, then more people join till you have a good crowd going. Just set it to a popular map, and let people joining do the rest.
Re: [poll] Our Clan Is Falling Apart
AwsedreswA, Sat Jan 13 2007, 12:48PM

Be the change you want to see. Its true, WoW is contagious. Consider yourself warned.

Be more specific, offer map rotation lists or maps to remove.

Offer up changes that you think will get more PLAYERS not just hits. If you want to play people and join a server thinking there are, you will not want to come back if you find they are bots or in spec. Yes there is the chance that the two will get more players from getting more hits. Though wont these bots be unable to surf, unless maybe a special dummy map was made(...angrytoaster) or smarter bots (...CSS Surf '07). That would make them spawn attackers/campers and screw up the server environment.

The quickest way to see changes is to make the work easy for Pope and Narf to get around to between leveling in WoW.
Re: [poll] Our Clan Is Falling Apart
Kate, Sat Jan 13 2007, 01:01PM

I should start playing again... maybe... I dunno.
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nostie, Sat Jan 13 2007, 02:42PM

Pope playing right now would be just as good as any other member, since he's not an OP anymore... so I don't know where you were getting with that noname...

You're right, it's not the same... but I'm thinking it might just be a general thing... no problem with leadership
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emerican, Sat Jan 13 2007, 03:18PM

i have tried my absolute best to get this server the way it used to be. Ive been playing this server for over a year and ive seen people come and go. But its never been this bad. Even during the whole LG thing we constantly had a full server.

One of the things that attracted me to this server, believe it or not, was the mic spamming. I find it fun to play with people chatting it up on the mic. When the admins constantly mute people, or abuse their admin, it drive people away and pisses off members. Ive givin admin to people who i think are responsible, and who play alot, such as brian, mafia, and pingpong.

As for the maps, I have added a shitload, and weve tested em out, and the ones we liked i kept on. When i get back, we are going to have a meeting where we test out all the old maps and pick which ones we want to keep/ditch. I think we need 2 or 3 more good, fun maps.


Glitch, i think that is a great idea. We have a ton of admins that no longer play anymore, and alot of the members dont play at surf much anymore. We're going to have to weed out the old, inactive members and elect new members (such as sk8) into the clan.

Im getting my comp back monday or tuesday, so by then il be back and palying again. Once i get back ill have access to ftp again and ill be able to do anything else.

If anyone has any suggestions, let me or kd or bleek know. Ill do anything i possibly can to save our clan and server.
Re: [poll] Our Clan Is Falling Apart
Noname|Boom, Sat Jan 13 2007, 03:32PM

well, you guys, you know this is narf's server, so i think we need some help from the big guy himself before we can just go around changing the server.
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nostie, Sat Jan 13 2007, 04:13PM

narf has given emerican final say... so listen to him cheesey

And also: emerican... i don't think new maps are what will help: i think that going back to japan, 10x, omega - all of the classic maps as the mapcycle will help make people feel at home... I NEVER see people join Surf when it's on some weird custom map... so let's get back to the classics
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bleek, Sat Jan 13 2007, 04:36PM

Japan isn't a classic.

Classic surf maps include surf_skyworld, surf_skyscraper, surf_10xfinal, surf_I_hate_campers, surf_raceway, surf_leet (original), surf_dreamer, surf_f7l5c (not really classic, but a good map).

Another way of getting more people to play, is by setting up Fast Map download, and adding that to the server name. The only mods that work well: Muggin, NoBlock, Betting. Take away all those god damn sounds too. Their funny, but people hate downloading them. Another serious problem is admins talking in Green Talk. Stop it. It's annoying to the regular players. Spamming the rules via admin say, should also be stopped, for the same reason. Admins be more strict. If there is an asshole that TKs, over and over, after being slayed and warned, chances are, they are retards who shouldn't be playing on the server anyways. These sorts of idots take away from the server quality.
Next, we should restrict nades, flashes, etc. They contribute to spawn attacking, and get in the way of gameplay.

If we apply those changes, we might have a chance of pulling through.
Re: [poll] Our Clan Is Falling Apart
Noname|Boom, Sat Jan 13 2007, 05:04PM

surf_scoutzknifez is a good map, is ee a lot of people mostly when that's on, and i agree with bleek.
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-Fux0r- Eric, Sat Jan 13 2007, 05:28PM

Everybody had good idea's, but my idea is maybe
trying a 24/7 surf map, just 1 map, find the funnest map that everybody loves, with the highest income of players. SO then you dont have to keep downloading all the maps(that what i hate most)
They will have to download that 1 single map and then they should be great to go for the rest of the times they play on that server.

Most severs that have rotation usually don't do good
but alot of 27/7 single map servers (like FT) does really well and the rate of people that join is high.

Maybe we should take the ideas of 27/7 cs_office
and use them for the surf.
And maybe in the future we can all the sounds things llike bleek said.

Just my idea on the situation

-Eric
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emerican, Sat Jan 13 2007, 05:33PM

i hate i_hate_campers. lol

yeah we need to keep playing the older classics. i agree with that. but what i meant by new maps were newer maps that are played alot on cs that attract people.

I miss the leet map with the jail. i liked that map. if anyone can find it please tell me so i can put it on the server.

Ill take away the sounds then.

Re: [poll] Our Clan Is Falling Apart
Knightrider, Sat Jan 13 2007, 05:34PM

I found a server that is 24/7 Rebel Resistance. It's always full, because that map tends to attract people. Perhaps putting that map on will get people to come. Every time I see it on that, I join whether I'm alone or not, because I love that map.
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nostie, Sat Jan 13 2007, 05:36PM

nostie hates the leet map w/ jail ;D

I haven't seen many people on when Rebel Resistance was on, though...

Scoutzknivez, i agree, is a pretty damn good map
Re: [poll] Our Clan Is Falling Apart
-Fux0r- Eric, Sat Jan 13 2007, 05:41PM

maybe a 27/7 surf_scoutzknifez
with the fun sounds that make everything fun(boomhead shot)
and maybe turning on all talk so people can talk trash to each other
you really dont need to be secrative on surf maps
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emerican, Sat Jan 13 2007, 05:48PM

a 24/7 surf map would be boring. thats my opinion. we have so many great maps to choose from. 10x. machine. machine2. its fun playing em all
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nostie, Sat Jan 13 2007, 05:48PM

all talk is already on, and it's not 27/7, it's24/7... you're making my OCD flare up.
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Noname|Boom, Sat Jan 13 2007, 06:03PM

i've also found a 24/7 RPG Surf server with 40 or 50 Slots, and it's always full. so maybe that's another idea?

also, i totally disagree with the one map idea, it'll get boring too quick for me.
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emerican, Sat Jan 13 2007, 06:31PM

no go on the rpg. i personally despise rpg, because its too easy to become invisable and unkillable
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.4ngryToasters, Sat Jan 13 2007, 09:30PM

I really liked the surf server back in that breif period of time where we had fun maps as well as surf maps on the server (blahhhh_s ftw), and I think that attracted a lot of new people at that time as well. It would be cool to have fun maps on there again, and I have also made some new fun maps since.

kddude, you mentioned adding bots to attract people. Let me say that every time I join a server just to find out the other "players" are bots, I feel cheated and tend to ignore that server from then on unless it's blatently obvious that real live people are on there. Plus it's easy to tell wether or not the players on the server are bots because under server info, bots will always have a ping of 0, or have exactly the same time logged on the server as each other. So I don't think bots are the answer here.

o, and I hate rpg mod as well.
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emerican, Sat Jan 13 2007, 09:50PM

hmm toast that is a great idea. i hadnt even thought about that. take a couple of the old custom maps and put em back on, such as breakfloor and dollz and blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhh_s.

I will put a topic up on this,
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Noname|Boom, Sat Jan 13 2007, 09:52PM

yeah, i loved it when narf put on the fun maps, it brought lots of people.
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gLiTch, Sat Jan 13 2007, 10:28PM

hey... since ppl hate downloading tons of maps over and over... like me, is there anyway you can make like a jumbo packet... zipfile or some type of folder with all the maps that you will put on the server. the .bsp files. download them all at once and display in the MOTD that go to our forums to donwload the packet. It will eliminate downloading maps to get into the server and i think will DEFINTELY get more ppl. When i want to surf.. i get an urge.. sometimes that urge disappears after sitting there downloading for 3 minutes. This is also another way to get more ppl to the forums as well.
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Noname|Boom, Sat Jan 13 2007, 11:13PM

good idea glitch!
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emerican, Sat Jan 13 2007, 11:44PM

mhmm thats on my to-do list
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Wildcard23, Sun Jan 14 2007, 08:26PM

Nice idea Glitch!! That would definitely solve the problem of dowloading maps and allow multiple maps to be on the server so they can be rotated through. I think you guys are on the right track of getting everything squared away. Good job all. smile