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| Kalibur |
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Registered Member #101
Joined: Thu Dec 29 2005, 01:04AMPosts: 578 |
The Caller of K wrote ... i propose we have a vote in the FT community Fucker this is a vote. also this is not an FT problem this is a FTC problem if we make it an FT one then people who don’t play FTC will vote and that’s not right we don’t need people vote when they DONT play FTC really no person should vote or make a post in this thread unless they have over like 100 hours on FTC and have played many times with Kever I don’t want Kever still able to play on FTC because we made this a FT issue and a lot of none FTC player voted No keep Kever that’s fucking crazy and I wont let it happen fuck that As far as this issue goes I say it stays in FTC and ONLY FTC members/players (who play more then a few times a month) vote and put in a post Not to be a dick or anything but like bleek… Yea you might be admin on FTC but when was the last time you played? Time: 06:58:28 Last Played: 2007-01-28 16:37:46 You have like 7 hours on FTC and you’re a great member to FTC but you don’t have enough playing time to say you know what all of the other members and players are having to deal with PS: I know I will get some bitched at for what I just posted but this is over an issue that is driving me crazy and making me want to kill someone so don’t take any wrong ideas from any post I make I’m just trying to make sure this is kept in the right area and the right people |
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| 5 Dollar Holler |
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Registered Member #494
Joined: Tue Nov 21 2006, 12:47AMPosts: 381 |
Kalibur wrote ... For a person who claims they DON’T hax she/he is not whiling to put up a big fight and try to stay on FTC And? Not putting up a defense does not imply guilt. From what i've gleaned, the most prevalent reason of why Kever should be banned is because admins are getting sick of whining. Well in that case lets make a rule on the server where if you hit above a 2.0 KDR you get autobanned, because we hate good players. It seems the #1 job of server admins right now is to make sure everyone stays at a healthy $16000 cash reserve. Just tell people to shut up or mute them or whatever. |
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| nostie |
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Registered Member #185
Joined: Thu Mar 30 2006, 10:42PMPosts: 3167 |
Kalibur wrote ... The Caller of K wrote ... i propose we have a vote in the FT community Fucker this is a vote. Kalibur: I'm a douchebag. I vote No. |
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| A Drunk |
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Registered Member #437
Joined: Sat Sep 23 2006, 02:18AMPosts: 1224 |
Kalibur, i just said that same exact thing to bleek on FTC. He is not a REGULAR FTC players, people who play everyday or every other day really are. Those are the people who vote because those are the people who see Kever the most. Not people who get on every wekend or play on surf most of the time. | ||
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| Knightrider |
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Meteor 2016
Registered Member #316
Joined: Mon Jun 26 2006, 09:14PMPosts: 3503 |
I first off would like to show you all a big reason why Kalibur is a giant, bag of douche. Let's sort through the obvious here. Kalibur wrote ... Kever has made it to the point where I don’t want to play on FTC because when I play and she/he is on I get complaints I get people xfireing me saying ban kever I cant take that shit every time I play some times I just want to play FTC and not do any admin shit at all, and other times when I’m on FTC and I’m lucky enough that no one is xfireing or screaming at me about kevers haxing I still don’t want to play because I SOOOO want to ban this play omg so if I’m not he server and kever is there I just fucking leave and say to me self "fuck this shit" Gee, I wonder why when I'm on X Fire nobody messages me? It's just you? Man, you must be a hell of an admin, oh and I might add you're very loyal to other FT members *Sarcasm* Kalibur wrote ... Fucker this is a vote I love how you prove yourself to be a fucking jackass right here. It's not a bad idea at all to move this to a proposal. Don't we terminate members there? Wouldn't this be the same? Your such a good person to other members! *More sarcasm* Kalibur wrote ... I don’t want Kever still able to play on FTC because we made this a FT issue and a lot of none FTC player voted No keep Kever that’s fucking crazy and I wont let it happen fuck that Really? You're going to go against majority rules to get rid of Kever? I guess this is a dictatorship ruled by Kalibur because our "No's" don't count. Everyone bow down to the all knowing Kalibur because what he says is! Kalibur wrote ... For a person who claims they DON’T hax she/he is not whiling to put up a big fight and try to stay on FTC Kevers post alone is BS I might a true reg and lover of FTC would make a post the size of gooses or other long post and make some good points or plead a case but I think the reason kever just made a little post is because she/he knows the time has come and people know and are tired of here haxs in her/his mine he/she is like “Well I knew I could only get away with it for so long time to find a new server and hope they are stupid and don’t see my haxs†Really? You would make the post, but what about different opinions on things? As she had told me in a conversation earlier, she's afraid to say shit like that because fuckheads like you go ignorant on her. To be honest, I would not want to watch a vote go by on me to rid me from the server simply because fucking babies like you whine about her hacking when you have no idea what hacking is. Where is your evidence Kalbur? Let's see it, come on. Show us where she is hacking. For someone that "Knows for sure" that she hacks I sure don't see you putting any evidence proving that she does. Nonetheless, I've never heard anything about Kever from you ever before. It just sounds like you want to suck some dick. I'm done with this fucking thread, I see no reason at all for her to be banned. I think I've given enough input to hand you valid reason's why. I'm not going to try and change anyone's opinions, I just feel sorry for her because she had a place to stay where she thought she could have fun but she was wrong. There's pricks like Kalibur that could really give a fuck less about other people's feelings at all. Way to go robocop! Edited Tue Jan 30 2007, 10:50PM |
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| Noname|Boom |
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That one guy...
Registered Member #250
Joined: Tue May 09 2006, 11:59PMPosts: 2603 |
I vote No, because i personally don't think kever hacks, maybe a little more than a CSS addict though... But i am VERY annoyed that everytime i connect and kever is on, the main subject of the chatting is that "ZOMFG!!!! KEVER HACKS, BANZ0RZ!!!11one!!" or some shit like that. Just my input. | ||
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| .neXTt |
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Registered Member #507
Joined: Thu Dec 14 2006, 01:42PMPosts: 539 |
BuBBLe GooSe wrote ... I fail to see how people complaining about Kever helps to promote a "fun and competative environment" when the fun is taken out of everyone's game everytime she plays and admins have their ears talked off by ban requests. I fail to see how Kever promotes a competative environment when she destroys CTs and causes them to leave without so much as swapping herself to CT to make up for the disparity in team sizes she caused. I did a mental cost/benefit analysis and tried to be as objective as possible using only the replies in this thread and I fail to see how the benefit of Kever's play on the server outweighs the burdens. okay this is my 3rd post on this thread only because it just pisses me off what people say. like glitch. goose i love you too. even though i didn't know you for too long. and also you're not the only one that said kever doesn't benefit the server. well wtf? how many people that play on FTc actually 'benefit' the server? does benefiting the server mean they're just another easy kill? i mean, besides being another kill to your score, how do other players actually 'benefit' the server? please name some benefits that players can give to the server. on the other hand. kever does piss people off, but not like she tries. she's fun to talk to, and if you actually talked to her, you'd know. she doesn't tk or anything, she actually contributes to the team shes on, she sticks with the team (unlike steel who rushes in). also like what glitch, how do you know people leave because of her? how do you know that they really left because kever pissed them off? i'd leave more from wildcard(on T of course) xP or steel. everyone knows kever is hax0r good. but no one is sure if she hacks so please. tell me what kever really did to harm the server. intentionally. and also tell me what other people have done to 'benefit(or contribute)' to the server. |
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| bleek |
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#woo
Registered Member #23
Joined: Fri Nov 25 2005, 11:39PMPosts: 665 |
A Drunk wrote ... i just said that same exact thing to bleek on FTC. He is not a REGULAR FTC players Just becouse I haven't been around lately becouse of my tougher schedual, dosn't mean I can't speak out against this. I have been with this community for close to 3 years, and becouse of the difficulties I am experiancing right now, I'm seppoused to crawl up in a corner and not say anything? Listen up. I have played with Kever multiple times. I have used hacks before, from simple ESP hacks, to aimbots, and model hacks. Therefore I can honestly say, in my opinion Kever dosen't hack. I see this vote go up. I AM a regular, and a FTC admin. So I decide to fight for what I belive is right. We shouldn't ban someone based on the fact that Kever is a good CS:S player, and that some people complain about her. Jesus! It's not like she is un beatable, people cry like little kids, I will not stand for letting us be pushed around becouse they get killed in this game. Bottom line is this. Kever is a good player. She is NOT unbeatable. Just becouse she might be a little hard to kill, and add some challange to the game, dosen't mean she should be banned. Everyone who complains about her becosue you think she hacks....show me the proof. You won't find it becouse she dosen't. For those of you who complain becouse you get killed by her alot, shut up and stop crying. Don't expect 'EASY MOD' in everything you fucking do. |
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| Hakha[reaper] |
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Registered Member #554
Joined: Tue Jan 30 2007, 10:44PMPosts: 10 |
I know im not in FT but i have been playin on FTC for around 8 or 9 months almost every day. you may think my opinion isn't worth shit, but i think kever should stay. I get owned left and right by a lot of people because i am not that good at css. But she never says a word and doesn't talk shit. It's usually the people that never come on are the ones saying she is a hacker. I would say let her stay and kick steel's ass. | ||
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| BuBBLe GooSe |
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The Original MilfHunter
Registered Member #163
Joined: Mon Mar 06 2006, 02:24PMPosts: 1592 |
Clearly this issue has support both sides of the argument. With around 400 views and 40 replies in 15+ hours, this thread is perhaps the most popular in the website's history. We are still left relatively divided on the matter. Is there anything that we can all agree on in this thread. Can we ALL at least acknowledge that Kever's presence causes a problem when players complain about her? Can we all acknowledge that admins have had to put up with it for months without being able to do anything? Can we agree on those two facts? Its pretty plain and simple and to refute those two facts only means that you haven't read the above posts closely enough or that you choose to comepletely disregard the testimony of those who have posted, simply for arguments sake. Now my next question is: If we can all agree that Kever's presence in-game is problematic, why not just do away with the problem? Why do you want to hear... пøиคмє wrote ... everytime i connect and kever is on, the main subject of the chatting is that "ZOMFG!!!! KEVER HACKS, BANZ0RZ!!!11one!!" or some shit like that. Why bother dealing with this shit when a ban will eliminate the problem right at the root? Why risk losing Newcomers? What is so special about Kever that her problem causing is tolerated while Dreiz, Impartial, the random TKer get banned? (Regardless of whether or not Kever's problem causing is intentional or not,,, the problem is still there.) The "she didn't break any rules" argument is fine because she is not looking to be banned for mic spamming. Its Other People's Reaction to her that causes the problem. Whats easier to do, change the mindset of a host of players or just eliminate 1? She clearly IS having adverse effects by her presence and a quick glance at this thread will tell you that. Her presence causes huge problems. Sucks, but its true. Eliminate her presence, eliminate the problem. Many of you noted in this thread that when someone calls Kever a hacker, a response of "Kever is legit so deal with it and stfu" or whatever could be offered by admins?!. Good luck, I ain't vouching for something that controversial and sketchy. But why even bother doing that? The point of banning Kever is so there will be absolutely no need to question/affirm her legitimacy because it will be some other server's problem. Judging by a few admin's responses in this thread, you will be hard pressed to find admins willing to defend her legitimacy when her whole style of play is surounded in skepticism. Whats the point of hearing "kever hacks, ban her admin" ingame everyday, somedays, WHENEVER if the problem can be solved with a ban and these questions won't arise later. "If there is a problem, yo lets solve it, check out the hook while while the DJ revolves it." Ice. Allowing Kever to play will not solve the problem, it will be making it worse. Kever's presence is problematic, regardless of whether she hacks or not, agree on that much. By problem, I mean people complain, lose faith in admins, question why the server allows percieved hackers, and scares away newcomers. If you agree with 1 of any of the 4 I just mentioned, than you can acknowledge that Kever's presence is problematic. Not dealing with a problem means that you still have a problem. Eliminating the problem means that the FRICTION is gone. Why prolong the friction? Edited Tue Jan 30 2007, 11:59PM |
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