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b4ndito
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ABadNewsBear wrote ... gLiTch wrote ... Even though at the last minute Obama changed his "under $250k tax cut policy" to $50k yesterday, and pushed so that the votes from the soldiers in Iraq didnt count. i will still love my country. Wrong. He changed it to 200k, there's a big difference. I didn't realize so many of you were conservative, but Obama was the right choice this election, regardless of your party alignment. McCain has served this country well, sure, but that doesn't entitle him to be President. Obama ran a better campaign and has progressive stands on many of the issues important to the future of this country. Campaign doesn't really mean anything. It means that more people gave him money. He isn't really a progressive Liberal though. He's more of a retro Liberal. He's a lot more like Woodrow Wilson and FDR. What matters to me are his policies; I for one disagree with higher taxes, greater graduated income taxes, bigger government, and more social programs. I do agree, however, with Obama's educational platform. I don't want him to be the next president. I'm sure he'll do some good and some bad (I expect more bad, but we'll see in 2.5 months). I think we're going to see a lot more ominous and threatening things happen to the Economy and America. |
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Anal Assassin
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ABadNewsBear wrote ... gLiTch wrote ... Even though at the last minute Obama changed his "under $250k tax cut policy" to $50k yesterday, and pushed so that the votes from the soldiers in Iraq didnt count. i will still love my country. Wrong. He changed it to 200k, there's a big difference. I didn't realize so many of you were conservative, but Obama was the right choice this election, regardless of your party alignment. McCain has served this country well, sure, but that doesn't entitle him to be President. Obama ran a better campaign and has progressive stands on many of the issues important to the future of this country. 200k? Right.... -[link]- He voted in the senate not too long ago that anyone making under 42k will get tax relief. -[link]- -[link]- -[link]- EDIT: Oh, and dont give me "youtube credibility." It shows your new president and his VP in their own words on camera. Thats credible enough. Edited Wed Nov 05 2008, 08:58PM |
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I knew someone would harp about my use of "better campaign" but I wanted to see what you'd say, and you're wrong. How one runs their campaign is an indicator of what they'll do in office. Obama showed insight in selecting who was close to him, showed superior organization, and showed that he's more in touch with what the American people value. Everything else Bandito, about taxation and government just says that you're a conservative, and we just won't see eye-to-eye regarding fiscal policy. Glitch, those videos (I watched two) are fail, not because they're from youtube, but because they're from FoxNews lolololol. But seriously, flexibility is a necessity, redefinition of terms can be a necessity as well. Let's see what he does now that he's in office. Oh, and he's your President too, bitch. |
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I knew someone would harp about my use of "better campaign" but I wanted to see what you'd say, and you're wrong. How one runs their campaign is an indicator of what they'll do in office. Obama showed insight in selecting who was close to him, showed superior organization, and showed that he's more in touch with what the American people value. Everything else Bandito, about taxation and government just says that you're a conservative, and we just won't see eye-to-eye regarding fiscal policy. Glitch, those videos (I watched two) are fail, not because they're from youtube, but because they're from FoxNews lolololol. But seriously, flexibility is a necessity, redefinition of terms can be a necessity as well. Let's see what he does now that he's in office. Oh, and he's your President too, bitch. |
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[quote] ABadNewsBear wrote ... gLiTch wrote ... Even though at the last minute Obama changed his "under $250k tax cut policy" to $50k yesterday, and pushed so that the votes from the soldiers in Iraq didnt count. i will still love my country. Wrong. He changed it to 200k, there's a big difference. I didn't realize so many of you were conservative, but Obama was the right choice this election, regardless of your party alignment. McCain has served this country well, sure, but that doesn't entitle him to be President. Obama ran a better campaign and has progressive stands on many of the issues important to the future of this country. 200k? Right.... -[link]- He voted in the senate not too long ago that anyone making under 42k will get tax relief. -[link]- -[link]- -[link]- EDIT: Oh, and dont give me "youtube credibility." It shows your new president and his VP in their own words on camera. Thats credible enough. [/quote1225921918] Your new president? I am 16. I can't vote nor would I vote for Obama or McCain. And besides, I don't think video editing is possible, anyone else think so? |
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Right, Obama's the right president. LOL. Notice McCain didn't try. Notice he never said anything during his debates or conventions about Obama's political credibility, or his citizenship in America. Does anyone know why Obama refused to show his birth certificate? He "Smoked it". Boy, that's a credible answer! His family members said he was born in Kenya. Does the Constitution not state that you have to be a US Born citizen to be a president? Nobody questioned him about harboring a terrorist supposedly. Nobody questioned him about him declaring himself present but not voting on bills. Where is his military experience? He has none. People left out the fact that he's a socialist. He's Islamic. Was our country not founded on Christian principles? He's for illegal immigrants. People are worrying about terrorists when they are free to come into our country. We're pulling out of Iraq which makes us more vulnerable. We give bad credit to a president who was merely fixing mistakes that two previous presidents fucked up before him. You know who pointed out that we needed to get Osama Bin Laden in the 80s? Al Gore. And guess what they did. They laughed at him. Sure, it's funny now, until the future comes and he sits back and says "I told you so." Your fabulous Clinton fucked it for us. We were openly attacked in 1998 and we let it go. They shrugged it off, got more confidence, and took those two buildings down completely killing more people. We don't need Change as an economy. We need change as a country as a whole. People need to wake up, and realize who really is to blame. Electing a socialist who isn't fit for this country let alone fit to run it is not the answer. Someone with no military experience, almost no political experience is running our country. Someone who got into office by campaigning with no credibility but words and the "I'm going to do this" bullshit. And you've heard the "What has Obama done in his entire time in the Senate" and 90 percent of people not knowing what to say to that. I don't have anymore to say to this because despite what any input someone has, the rest of the world is too close minded to understand someone else's opinion. We're relying on our short established trust we've invested in someone who has no experience to lead our country out of hell. If he proves to be the person everyone thought he was, then awesome. I've been proved wrong. But if he doesn't, I'll be the one leaning back with a gun strapped next to a pile of people who died trying to play God and take my rights away saying, "I told you so." |
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Good God a muslim!? He can't be a president! | ||
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Anal Assassin
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Knightrider wrote ... Right, Obama's the right president. LOL. Notice McCain didn't try. Notice he never said anything during his debates or conventions about Obama's political credibility, or his citizenship in America. Does anyone know why Obama refused to show his birth certificate? He "Smoked it". Boy, that's a credible answer! His family members said he was born in Kenya. Does the Constitution not state that you have to be a US Born citizen to be a president? Nobody questioned him about harboring a terrorist supposedly. Nobody questioned him about him declaring himself present but not voting on bills. Where is his military experience? He has none. People left out the fact that he's a socialist. He's Islamic. Was our country not founded on Christian principles? He's for illegal immigrants. People are worrying about terrorists when they are free to come into our country. We're pulling out of Iraq which makes us more vulnerable. We give bad credit to a president who was merely fixing mistakes that two previous presidents fucked up before him. You know who pointed out that we needed to get Osama Bin Laden in the 80s? Al Gore. And guess what they did. They laughed at him. Sure, it's funny now, until the future comes and he sits back and says "I told you so." Your fabulous Clinton fucked it for us. We were openly attacked in 1998 and we let it go. They shrugged it off, got more confidence, and took those two buildings down completely killing more people. We don't need Change as an economy. We need change as a country as a whole. People need to wake up, and realize who really is to blame. Electing a socialist who isn't fit for this country let alone fit to run it is not the answer. Someone with no military experience, almost no political experience is running our country. Someone who got into office by campaigning with no credibility but words and the "I'm going to do this" bullshit. And you've heard the "What has Obama done in his entire time in the Senate" and 90 percent of people not knowing what to say to that. I don't have anymore to say to this because despite what any input someone has, the rest of the world is too close minded to understand someone else's opinion. We're relying on our short established trust we've invested in someone who has no experience to lead our country out of hell. If he proves to be the person everyone thought he was, then awesome. I've been proved wrong. But if he doesn't, I'll be the one leaning back with a gun strapped next to a pile of people who died trying to play God and take my rights away saying, "I told you so." One question for you What ever happened to the separation of church and state? Go ask your history teachers all about that theory. Your one statement of a bias that is against the constitution (first amendment rights) ruins your whole argument. Not to mention he is a Christian. But it wasn't hard to swallow that Bush used the term "born again Christian" to say that he once was religious, which is false as well. Ohh and also, good job playing into the right winged news, I bet you love Murdoch and every thing he has done for this country right? Best chance of getting good news is reading the AP (associated press). It seems to be the last good source of real journalism, and if you find one side of a story you can definitely find the other. And 4 years in the Senate is no experience? It doesn't matter if he listed present and then did not vote, actually, many senators do that because they see the pros and cons of the vote. Highly doubt you've learned about that because it seems to me you are really the one who is too "close minded" to actually look at the other side. But you can't blame me, I didn't vote for him or McCain. |
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I wanted to say the same thing but I can't write coherently, thank you Rusty | ||
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