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Registered Member #365
Joined: Thu Jan 01 1970, 12:00AMPosts: 513 |
i studied string theory and wrote a gigantic paper on it. comes in a close 2nd to my favorite subject... QUANTUM PHYSICS -[link]- it gets a little exhaggerative towards the end but its still a good clip |
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Registered Member #365
Joined: Thu Jan 01 1970, 12:00AM Posts: 513 |
-[link]- this wouldve made my paper a helluva lot easier it gets interesting around the 5th dimension |
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Registered Member #149
Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 01:08AMPosts: 2039 |
We are the results of an eternal machine, constantly creating and destroying it's own laws. The fact we are here is from a sequence of chances that could have turned out in infanantly different ways. For example how did DNA, a simple string of chemical bonds (think about it, these are just common minerals, not special in any way individualy, but when strung together, can create life) become the deciding mechinism for ALL behaviors, traights, and appearences? Single cell organisms use this for direction and instincts. But we are a mass of single cell organisms, all working together, procreating, and dying for the graeter good or a lifeform they can't even comprehend exists. Cells just get their jobs from DNA and do it without thought or question. Why Build a complex machine like a human when living alone would be... more efficient? We are not one consiousness, but billions of minute consiences working together to form a more complex and adaptable living enviroment.
Which brings me to my next theory. Size is all relative. Just as Einstein believed time was relative. Why should an atome be the smallest particle in existence? You know when I see a diagram of an atom, it makes e think of something familliar. Man, those electrons look like planets orbiting around a star... It is very hard for me to put this into words, but in my mind I can understand this... Just because we can't see smaller than an atom doesn't mean that it is the definate samllest building block of all existence. Take a step back away from our solar system for a moment. What can you see? a bunch of insignificant masses orbiting around a central point of gravity. If you did not already know what was contained in this system you would assume it to be the smallest building block of our universe. But as we know, that is not the case. We are even smaller details to the solar system, and atoms are smaller details within us. So whay can't a race of living thinking beings exist on say an electron orbiting around a nucleus? This would also prove Einstein's theory of relativity. As anything living on something the size of an atom would surely have a lifespan to reflect it's size. That is to say in the blink of a eye, a million generations have begun and died. Evolving faster than one can concieve. And to boot, every one of those generations that can be described in nanoseconds, lasted a lifetime from their prospective, unaware that beings of unimaginable size were using them in a complex system of reactions to form a stimulus, which in turn influenced the action of a human being, which caused him to make a change in his enviroment, which made the earth ever so slightly change it's course orbiting the sun, which was thrown off ballance by this change of course, which affected the other stars and systems around it, which affected the galaxy... and so on to infinity.
So here's what will really mindfuck you. When does infinantly big, become infinantly small? That is, can there be a continueous loop of scale? Can something be so massive, that it becomes the tiniest particle concievable?
We consume and create huge amounts of energy over the course of our lifetimes. Every breathe we take is the initial stage of a series of billions of chemical reactions. we fuel ourselves by consuming what others have spent their lives creating. So what is energy, and who said "you need this to exist?" Why does matter and energy seem to exist on seperate planes? Who drew the line and said "This is matter, and this is energy. You can't create or destroy either,"? My thought is, they don't. They are in fact one and the same. Radiant energy travels by means of wavelength. What's stopping it from just going straight to it's destination? Also, if radiant energy can't be affected by matter, why the hell is there something called a black hole? This may seem off point, but I assure you, it has everything to do with what I am talking about: Have you ever played with a spirograph as a kid? You know, the kit that comes with all these crazy shaped gears with holes in the middle where you stick a pencil through to draw out a shape.
Well take that gear and make your spirograph against a flat surface. yu get a picture that should look similar to this:
Looks kinda like a wavelength huh? In order to make this design your pencil orbited around a central point on the gear, while the gear moved in a linear path.
What's my point? you just made a wavelenth by moving in a straight line. Now lets suppose that energy were somehow made of particles (thus upsetting all of your beliefs and theories while sending you into the corner crying). Those particles would carry with them, mass (weight), and with mass comes the ability to attract other things with mass by means of gravity. Now sorry to jump around here but back to the spirograph example: lets look at the solar system as a spirgraph; with the sun being the central point of the gear, and the earth being the hole where you stick your pencil through to draw. The sun is traveling in a (relatively) straight line while the earth orbits around it. stick an ubsurdly large peice of paper underethe this giant spirograph and what design do you get?
Now a crucial thing to rember here is that the sun (central point of the gear) will not move in a straight line due to the fact that the earth has a grvitational pull on the sun, and will cause it to wobble as attempts to move in a straight line. This will cause the "fish scale" pattern in those pictures to look more like a "wavelegnth" pattern. The closer in mass the two orbiting bodies are, the more even the wavelength pattern will be. So what I am saying is, a radiant energy wavelength is the result of two bodies orbiting one another on a straight path. THIS explains why energy can be affected supermassive objects such as black holes, and THIS explains why energy can transfered into something you can feel such as heat (the result of molecules moving faster and bouncing off each other). The particles are just moving so super fast, that they cannot be detected, only the footprint of a wavelength is left behind. If my theory is correct, then wavelengths should always come in at least pairs of particles. Either one high frequency and one low frequency wavelegnth, or two moderate frequency wavelegnths (which we can sense as visible light... omfg[wait, just thought of something... colors come in wavelengths, certain colors mix from the basic red blue green to become other colors, could their wavelegnths be related to what I am describing? I'm going to ponder about this one for a while]). Also, in extremely high and low frequency wavelengths, one side (either the top or bottom of the trough) should be squashed like in my picture above. Who knows, maybe irregular patterned wavelegnths could exist as a result of more than two particles orbiting each other. We just don't have the equipment to comprehend them yet.
That is my feeble attempt to describe the world around me. This is the stuff I think about on insomiatic nights for most of my life. I've hijacked your thread enough 00 Agent, so I won't even begin to describe what I think happens after you die.
Heheh, I believe I just wrote my college thesis.
NOTE: I wrote all this before I watched your video Agent.
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Joined: Tue Dec 06 2005, 01:37AMPosts: 1561 |
wow..damn..impressive that makes me feel stupid  then again what 16 year old knows that much |
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Registered Member #149
Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 01:08AM Posts: 2039 |
Thoughts after watching the videos: My post sorta fell off topic on some aspects of quantom physics. I thought I knew what quantom physics was, but I was wrong (lol). Now that I saw the video, I think this stuff is amazingly interesting (and would even consider studying this topic as my minor in college). I'd love to see mopre on this. |
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Master of pZoneage
Registered Member #44
Joined: Sun Dec 04 2005, 07:44PMPosts: 62 |
that is a very good read toaster. well thought out. but on your "atom looking like the solar system." this has been discussed many times by many different people (my father actually told me when we were talking about stuff like this once). but you should know that atom do not have orbits, but orbitals. the electron has no defined path and is near impossible to locate (im sure youve heard of the atom-cloud diagram, and the propability of finding an electron in the more dense part of the "cloud"). i understand what you are saying about there being bigger universes and perhaps we are just an atom in a bigger universe. for your thoughts on scale: i believe it was einstien who introduced this theory. having to due with the speed of light. NOTHING can travel faster than the speed of light, for if something did laws of nature would cease to exist. an outcome of this is that that object going faster than the speed or of the speed of light would continue to grow in size until it became so big and had so much force that the universe would collaple around it. black holes are still not all "defined" we know that matter as we know it gets sucked into the black hole and most likely gets compressed until it pops out of existance. black holes are nothing to fear though, we'll be long dead (as well as earth) before a black hole becomes mature enough to suck in our galaxy and universe. and there is no stopping a black hole, it (as well as other black holes across the entire universe) will suck everything up until there is no matter of any sort left and puts itself out of existance along with everything else. but this is billions and billions of years away. theres actually signs of a very small blakc hole near the sun (good news eh?). scientists have created black holes in labs by putting atoms throgh particle accelerators and slamming them together, but they are so unstable that they last less than a thrillienth of a second. but were getting closer to actually getting a stable one, but once we do, we have to destroy it immediatly, otherwise, well, you guess  btw you didnt hijack my topic  this is percisely why i wanted to create a topic like this. to explore ideas and ponder about the universe.
Edited Wed Aug 23 2006, 03:41AM
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Master of pZoneage
Registered Member #44
Joined: Sun Dec 04 2005, 07:44PM Posts: 62 |
Night_Ninja wrote ... I've always thought that this whole thing's just a game, simulation, that sort of thing, so I try to squeeze the most out of people wherever I go. I try to ellicit the most reactions, and learn everything about them, so when it's game over I have the highest stats. YEAH! But I don't agree how they says you arn't "alive" what about art then? Your imagination which seperates you from animals, it doesn't ring true for me. But then why do we have religion, and all these people following them, is it that easy to decieve people, is our god really just a player? And they're are tons of alternate universes like this, simply at the control of a game. If so, I WANT ONE. check out the link i gave that has that warning on it, it is pretty much the same idea. |
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Registered Member #188
Joined: Sat Apr 01 2006, 04:34PMPosts: 261 |
Yeah I just saw that....thats why I was all...philospohical. I can spell! |
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Registered Member #149
Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 01:08AM Posts: 2039 |
Agent, I'm so glad you don't think I am crazy and have actually thought about my affore mentioned topics before. wrote ... but you should know that atom do not have orbits, but orbitals. the electron has no defined path and is near impossible to locate (im sure youve heard of the atom-cloud diagram, and the propability of finding an electron in the more dense part of the "cloud"). Good thing you brought this up. Once again I must refer to einstien's theory of time is relative to size. Atoms are tiny objects, therefore a complete orbit of an electron around a nucleus takes a tiny amount of time. ow as you may hae heard of, the earth's orbit aound the sun is ot an exact circle, but is more like an egg. This orbit shifts and becomes elongated and shrinks every couple million years or so. If we looked at our orbit in as we see an electron in atom time, it too would look like a cloud (granted a flat cloud, but you see where I'm going with this). Also I don't belive that every single planet falls into this cloud disc. Just look at pluto's irregular orbit, and all of the objects out in the Kaiper belt (spelling?). everything put together in atom time would look like a cloud. wrote ... I did not mean to make it sound like I was claiming the theory of relativity as my own. If I did, I apologize, but I was just trying to put my thoughts into words as fast as I could as they came through. for your thoughts on scale: i believe it was einstien who introduced this theory My b |
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Master of pZoneage
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Joined: Sun Dec 04 2005, 07:44PM Posts: 62 |
.4ngryToasters wrote ... I did not mean to make it sound like I was claiming the theory of relativity as my own. If I did, I apologize, but I was just trying to put my thoughts into words as fast as I could as they came through. My b no of course not, i was just saying that i think it was einstein who introduced the idea, not that you stole it. kinda off topic but on orbits, the moon moves about the length of your fingernail growth over a year every year away from earth. eventually it will lose the earths grvitational pull and we will all freeze during the night  belive it or not the moon it vital to our existance. Edited Wed Aug 23 2006, 04:18AM |
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